. >> matt gorman, if i go to the control room, guys, i want graphic 10.his sthe comparison of the biden favorable and clinton favorable. this is what i think might be among the most important differences between 2020 and 2016. joe biden's net favorability rating in our poll is plus 1 in october of 2020. in october of 2016, even when we had hillary clinton ahead in the polls her net favorability was 10 points under water. as the president tries to re-create the 2016 campaign, this seems to me his biggest hurdle. joe biden is not hillary clinton. and that is something that he can't change. >> no. that is absolutely true. it goes back to the point referendum versus choice. one of the most interesting poll numbers i see is people who dislike both candidates. trump won that by double digits in 2016. he's losing by double digits this time around. right? and if you noticed bien's messaging goes in large part to the point where people feel good about their own station in life but not good about the country as a whole. it's different than clinton. if you elect him

matt gorman, thank you both.uch appreciated. >>> right now, this is a live look at warm springs, georgia. joe biden is set to speak shortly. that's, of course, where fdr famously would recuperate from his polio issues. so once he begins, we'll bring you joe biden's remarks live. >>> also ahead -- america is suffering through the worst of the coronavirus pandemic so far. period. not a first peak, second peak. worst yet. the new cases are rapidly rising. we'll talk with a top infectious disease expert next. try optum perks. it's a new way to save up to 80%. and everyone can do it. it's from optum, a health care company that's trusted by millions of people. you don't have to sign up for anything. just go to optumperks.com. and get a coupon to use at your pharmacy. that's it. i opted in. i opted in. you can, too. opt in and save big today. art class. it's abstract expressionism. when you start with a better hot dog from oscar mayer, you can do no wrong. it's all for the love of hot dogs. smells more amazing than ever

joining to us talk about this, republican consultant matt gorman. matt, good morning.hanks for getting up with us. let's talk about the debate and what the stakes are. mike memoli alluded to this earlier when we were talking about this. the reality that both of these people are viewed very much as perhaps a not so distant future for their respective parties, especially with the president stick now with coronavirus. and the former vice president joe biden understanding that his candidacy -- he's described it in slightly different terms. and selecting kamala harris really put her on a potential path to be a part of the future of the party. what are you expecting from tonight's debate? what are the stakes? and what do you think each side needs to accomplish? >> well, thanks for having me. i think the goal for either side is to make as little news as possible, right? no one is voting in that space. but what i find is that when these two candidates when it comes to debating such a difference in styles, right? if mike pence were a boxer, he'd be somebody that gives a lot of

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all right, matt gorman, chris hahn, thank you. coming up what this could all mean to voters.und weighs in. ok everyone, our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. whoo-hoo! great tasting ensure with 9 grams of protein, 27 vitamins and minerals, and nutrients to support immune health. >> dana: president trump and the first lady testing positive for coronavirus. rich has been tracking what the rest of the world is saying about that. hey, rich. >> good afternoon, dana. the 2020 version of the geopolitical get well card. twitter well wishes and telegram. we'll get to the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, one of the strongest allies and supporters of the president. he tweeted like millions of israeli's, sarah and i think about donald trump and first lady melania trump and wish our friends a full and speedy recovery. uk prime minister boris johnson was hospitalized this spring with covid-19. he tweeted, quote, my best wishes to president trump and the first lady. hope they both have a speedy recover roy from coronavirus. two u.s. adver

mo elleithee and matt gorman, good to see you both. thank you, gentlemen. >> sandra: concerns about an october surprise coming from one of the most dangerous regimes on earth. this weekend marks the 75th anniversary of the founding of north korea's ruling party and now analysts are warning that kim jong-un use the occasion to unveal a new strategic weapon capable of reaching the u.s. correspondent greg palkot is following that story for us from london this morning. >> that's right. just a few weeks before our election, north korean leader kim jong-un could threaten us with something new. we were there for 10 years ago when a young kim made his first public appearance. he took over when his father died a year later. this year according to experts, the north korean leader could be rolling out, among other things, a new solid fuel, multi-stage, intercontinental ballistic missile with a range which could allow it to target mainland united states. it is said that chairman kim wants to unify a domestic audience who have endured this year typ

national organizers of the women's march and matt gorman joins us. , the president are going to change strategies this time around and perhaps let joe biden speak more on that debate stage? >> looking at it broadly this is one of the last chances to change the trajectory of the campaign. it might be too late. early voting has started in most states. florida started today. but i think trump looked back at his last debate in 2016 with hillary and saw that he let her talk, let her hurt herself and chime in when appropriate and compared to this last debate i think jason was alluding to it. the interruptions were not only offputting but saved biden in a lot of aspects where he was losing his train of thought. being pressed by chris wallace say on court packing or antifa. trump would jump in and change the topic or change the tenor. trump saved him. i think they will adjust now when it comes on thursday night. >> sandra: why do you think the trump campaign decided it's a better idea if the president lets joe biden speak more on that stage? >> because it's t