matt gorman, i want to touch with you big picture, what we learned from the book, what general milley was doing and thinking during this time. let's tie it with what's happening now. what seems concerning about this is that the entire government had to mobilize to try to keep our institutions, democracy, on track. and the riot was mobilized by a president lying to supporters by saying i won the election. you need to go to the capitol and take care of this. the reality we have seen in the states especially among state parties that has continued to be perpetuated. there was a republican party official in michigan just ousted after he gave an honest quote, he was attacked, criticized for the quote, came under threat for that quote, that he had given months and months ago. finally said enough is enough. what is the potential level of damage currently being done. for me, this reporting threw into stark reality that we have to pay close attention to what's going on in state parties and what's being said because consequences are really unpredictable. >> look, i think it is unfortunate you se

matt gorman, wesley marshall an matt, endlessly, welcome to the program. he's curious to know about white rag and all of that, but now he say were not going to concentrate o that after all in the military. >> that soundbite from him this month, let me just state the obvious, it's inappropriate for military leaders to weigh in on political legislation. i would say that is the legislation was out there that agreed with. we elect political leaders to weigh in on political legislation, there are plenty o countries around the world wher their military leaders sit and weigh in on policy, and looked, there is a lot of democrats and a lot in the media who pride al about the breaking of norms during the trump years, and yet they are silent or they were silent on this. you want the breaking of norms, this was a perfect example righ here. >> leslie, as i come to you i want to look at this and kind o a different way. you have heard that military families were contacting military retirees like representative watts in florida and saying this isn't right, bu you've also

matt gorman for house democrat gop arm and kevin walling.peaker of the house there in texas saying -- the leader of the democrats saying look, i will have a plane on stand by. come home and do your jobs, what does it tell you about what democrats are trying to accomplish in d.c. now? >> it is important to note it is the republican house speaker that has the chartered flight. not the democratic leader. the posts are a distraction. the state representative doing her laundry in the bathroom, some of the other tweets that we've seen are what we're talking about and not about the core of why they decided to leave texas and come here and push for voting rights. clearly it is not helpful. i think in terms of the optics. it is distraction from the message that 2020 was a very secure election. just 16 counts supposedly of voter fraud in the state of texas out of 11 million votes cast. texas already has voter i.d. and has a lot of these security measures in place. it just is an attempt to make it more difficult for texas residents to vote. that's prob

with us now to discuss it, former nrcc communications director matt goreson and kristin -- who was -- gormanre. let's talk about this executive order because on the one hand, you have the administration, president biden, issuing this executive order with some 72 initiatives cracking down on big tech. at the same time, former president trump suing big tech; facebook, google, twitter and putting his op-ed in the "wall street journal" that this is one of the biggest threats to society, the threat on free speech. matt, i want to start with you. your reaction to this executive order. >> you know, i think this is somewhere where the right and the left could actually find some consensus on. i think conservatives, beyond president trump, are really concerned about, i think, the lack of transparency with some of the larger platforms, even like a youtube that really shapes the public debate. you know, an example being ron desantis was having a panel last spring with recan den,ned scientists -- yes credentialed scientists, and it was pulled from youtube. i think conservatives are looking for transparen