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, uh, instance, when matt hancock, uh, decided that there must be tests before discharge from hospitalsook fully to care homes, it took fully seven days for the snp government to decide that they should follow. that was seven days that they could have agreed to actually be the same. uh, and i think it's those sorts of serious decisions that will throw, uh, they were highly divisive , serious decisions divisive, serious decisions being taken for purely political reasons. >> and then the deletion of the whatsapp messages , which just whatsapp messages, which just seems a bit, well, terrible pun, as she's called sturgeon, but seems a bit fishy . seems a bit fishy. >> well, indeed . and there's >> well, indeed. and there's this aspect of the lying. there was lying about. we're not looking at independence as an issue when in fact, on the same day she said that they had met at cabinet and decided they would uh, there's the line about i will make all the whatsapp messages available when in fact we know she was actually delete ing them. uh, so, so the public, the scottish public have every righ

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i just think of matt hancock singing on the beach. ah. anyway, the ah.le are people the police are from margot she's australian . margot robbie, she's australian. uh, they've a hilarious uh, they've done a hilarious facebook post, uh, it facebook post, uh, saying it says police investigate as margot robbie . police are margot robbie. police are investigating after a former resident of ramsay street. i didn't know she was a neighbours. did you know that? no idea. uh, former resident no no idea. uh, former resident of ramsay was allegedly of ramsay street was allegedly robbed of an oscar nomination for actress . and then they for best actress. and then they give advice what to give some advice about what to do. if you think there really is a robbery. so bit of fun, isn't it? >> i mean, i've got to say, i went to see it. i thought it was trash. i don't understand how it became this. obviously somebody's something right. became this. obviously schuge�*dy's something right. became this. obviously schuge cult something right. became this. obviously schuge cult

it's almost as if, you know matt hancock sitting there at the start of covid. >> he goes away and saysey say, oh yeah, i think we've got a plan. he walks away and plan. then he walks away and says, fine. says, right, it's all fine. everything's your everything's great. so as your job as a minister, i suppose, is to tough questions, to ask those tough questions, interrogate rather than just take face value what you're take at face value what you're told. but matthew, i want to pick you up on your first point. this a one line bill in this idea of a one line bill in parliament just to exonerate all 700 odd people accused and indeed convicted over the course of these last 20 years, one of the reasons i understand as to why the government doesn't want to rush towards doing that is it's very unlikely that there were 700 people committing fraud over the last 20 years, perhaps it's also quite unlikely that there were zero. mhm. so the one line thing i actually stole from patrick as a suggestion when we were discussing this, debating this in the green room. >> but it has a certain appeal and th

decisions at the time, i'm including the prime that sajid prime minister in that and sajid javid and matt hancockeven longer and but but who you have conversations with. why won't they come out and say actually in retrospect, that we should never have done that? well credit nadhim when he credit to nadhim zahawi when he was he did was education secretary, he did say that publicly. >> he did say, can't remember >> he did say, i can't remember the words, but the the exact words, but along the lines was the wrong lines of that it was the wrong thing or mistake to close schools. him. but schools. so credit to him. but that not a government wide that is not a government wide position doesn't position or it certainly doesn't seem but i don't see how seem to be. but i don't see how we can credibly say we've got to get kids school if we don't get kids in school if we don't publicly acknowledge what what went now, i don't went wrong. now, i don't particularly to apportion particularly want to apportion individual . it's clear individual blame. it's clear that it was a difficult that it was a very difficul

out those remember it came out of those whatsapp messages that boris johnson, and co johnson, matt hancockto what nicola sturgeon did, particularly in relation schools and then relation to schools and then deciding here in england deciding policy here in england based on what she was doing . so based on what she was doing. so let's hope she was right. now it's for your news it's time for your news headunes it's time for your news headlines with sam . headlines with sam. >> bev and . andrew thank you >> bev and. andrew thank you very much. it's just gone 10:30. the headlines this hour. the government is expected to pubush government is expected to publish details later of its deal with the dup. the party withdrew from power sharing in northern ireland almost two years was in protest years ago. that was in protest against arrangements brought in after brexit. the new arrangement will also include legislation to strengthen trading arrangements with the rest of the uk , and give rest of the uk, and give a package of more than £3 billion to northern ireland to support its struggling public serv

let's bring in matt miskin at john hancock and matt disock at merrill. good morning to you both. as well, of course. matt disock, we were talking about the market expectation for the fed and what it might do and the back up in yields and the prospect of the rate cut in march. where do you stand on what the fed is planning? >> obviously, it has been interesting. we are seeing a powell pivot 3.0. that's great news. his flexibility and fmoc flexibility is a good thing. you feel like you are getting whiplash. to change what you are doing when the economy and market demands it makes sense. it is clear they shifted on the rate cuts and they weren't talking about it four months ago. importantly now on the quantitative tightening side, they are making sure liquidity is not a problem. they told you that in the minutes. they followed up with fed president logan who had managed the program before talking about it. now it is getting more in the mainstream press. at the end of the day, the fed will not be a scapegoat for recession. they want to play for the soft landing. they believe disinfla

um, so i think what happens probably the matt hancock diaries, you know, all the, all whatsapps all thewith senior health officials the other senior civil servants with serher health officials the other senior civil servants with serher godth officials the other senior civil servants with serher god ,| officials the other senior civil servants with serher god , if fficials the other senior civil servants with serher god , if my als the other senior civil servants with serher god , if my whatsapps showed her god, if my whatsapps come out to an inquiry , has the come out to an inquiry, has the power to do this. >> the hand, don't >> on the one hand, you don't blame how blame her, because how ridiculous whatsapp ridiculous was it that whatsapp should and should have been private and suddenly gets exposed and the suddenly it gets exposed and the problem is, there's governing by whatsapp. you know, a lot of the things that would have been a previous generation being done via email, like traceable opfions via email, like traceable options email inboxes options and work email inboxes and now ov