like matt kidder. >> when i got the call, i walk out of the room to make sure the sky wasn't on fire.essica, wouldn't be dead. >> when detective davis interviewed matt, he encountered a man still apparently grieving. >> she had a really good heart. >> yeah? >> good mother. good friend. she -- i don't think i've ever heard her not put herself out for somebody in need. >> as so davis was sympathetic. and matt opened up. talked about his brother really teasing relationship with jessica. >> me and just, we always had the relationship where we have inside sexual innuendo jokes. even though we have never had interest in each other like. that i've kind of always enjoyed -- that being able to do around would somebody without, you know, it's never going to lead anywhere, so it's like everything is on the table. >> and like brother and sister, he said, they sometimes get physical in a playful way. >> we'd fool around a little bit, but i, mean -- >> do you mean? >> it's just kind of like she would pinch me, i would put her in her side. just like teasing. sibling teasing, i guess you could call.