was.w who matt kilroy i remember it was my mother's uncle who did this and she said -- what the blankid you do that for? 1967 tore at this may christmas. 1967 by the spring of 1968, my parents refused to acknowledge me if i spoke about baseball on even-numbered day. the audit even system, my parents made it. i never stop talking about it. >> a lot of great political reporters come from sports. the great columnist for the new york times. there is something about describing sports that gives you the ability to describe political events. >> i think that is true. it is historically true as well. the name escapes me but there was a -- a daily baseball writer, not that he went into politics. he went into novel writing or short story writing. ground ineat training terms of determining cause-and-effect. a ballgame and, somebody lost and somebody wins. >> there is always a winner and a loser. able to saye at the end of about a loss, it was a moral victory. you cannot go in and claim you won the game. ownseason why everybody who goes in the politics and sports -- you don't cover politics, cube