in the 18th century, there was a man named matt kohl lander the who did exactly the same thing in newspapers, so we've had that experience. we've had experience where the line between news and entertainment were completely blurred. so if the front page of a newspaper in the 19th century might have a news story, might have an opinion piece, might have a poem, might have a list of what's come in on the latest ship in the harbor, and it looked more like a web page than it looked like a newspaper that we were familiar with in the 20th century. so we have experienced pieces of all this. what we haven't experienced is it all coming together with this new technology that we have. >> host: what are your main news sources? >> guest: that's a really great question. so, um, i depend on a lot of sources. i tend not to watch the three broadcasts, and when i do, it's more as my role as an academic to see what they're doing. i will, um, watch the cable news shows, usually flipping between cnn, fox and msnbc partly because i want to hear what's happening, but also was i want to hear -- because i want to hea