like a pig in the middle of just don't mix or do that recently our own sean stone sat down with matt koval one of the founders of the libertarian socialist caucus in the libertarian party yes you heard me right a libertarian socialist and he is currently running for a seat in the michigan house of representatives. struck. exploration really interesting political ideology. in two thousand and sixteen where i felt i could make a difference in support. candidates in political action it was gary johnson that brought me in and. coming in there wasn't any infrastructure of nobody in the area that i live in a mccollum county there was supporting his campaign we had to and one of the biggest counties in michigan i had to help build up an affiliate and the entire time i got told gary johnson wasn't a libertarian he didn't belong in the party i don't belong in the party and i've been fighting that mentality that you know exclusionary practice that i think is limited to the libertarian party but i think it's very detrimental to trying to build a successful political movement. right but from my unders