so we got matt mashburn, right?e gumption to come on, tell the truth about what he found even though he knows people are going to jump on him. hears the call. doesn't like what he hears on the call. and when i asked him would you have voted for trump again if you knew this kind of stuff is what he'd say, he gives him a break. what is it with you people that keeps giving trump a break no matter what he says or what he does? how can matchburn or any of you guys hear what he says on that tape and not find it damning? >> i don't think we are giving him a break. i think people like pat toomey and liz cheney are doing the right thing. they're speaking out against that call and saying the right things and saying that it is dangerous and troubling and saying all the things they should be saying because it's the right thing to do. i think liz cheney coming out was tremendously beneficial for the republican party, and i think people should be paying more attention to what she's saying because it matters. i also think what the