joe: for more, let's bring in bloomberg columnist matt mason. thanks for joining us. the numbers looking pretty bad in the u.s. a peak numbere to of daily cases. what is it translating into hospitalizations and deaths? this is the same pattern that we saw over the summer. how the course of the disease works. time for the virus to spread. eventually when you have enough community spread, it hits enough people or breakthrough to more vulnerable populations. we are already there. when you are adding 70,000 cases a day, they are going to take up further. i would be shocked if we don't significantly surpass some of those records of the summer. outbreak,t summer where it was pretty heavily concentrated in a few states, now you have more than a dozen states with test positivity rates over 10%. way of earlyin the major policy adjustments that are going to bring that under control anytime soon. so further growth is inevitable. caroline: policy adjustments is an interesting theme. we look at the car crash that seems to be going on in the united kingdom with the confusion over t

mason caught up with him. ♪ ♪ the last time we were together ♪ >> reporter: when matt berninger made the video for his new songall day. >> reporter: covid precautions required a new approach. >> i think artists and people, filmmakers and musicians are finding inventive ways to do what they did before but with their hands tied. suddenly everyone has to turn into houdini. they have to. >> reporter: berninger has more than a few tricks up his sleeve. this year, he's rehearsed with his band, worked on an opera and finished up his first solo album. ♪ >> you can split yourself in all those different directions? >> yeah, because they're not different directions for me. they're all -- i keep describing it as all in the same soup of stuff. i do say yes to too many things and get really exhausted and cranky and burned out and when berriies land on my head during interviews i sometimes lose it. but sometimes art and making stuff has always been the thing that just makes me feel happier. it makes me feel like i did something worthwhile today and made a scratch on the universe. ♪ i see the starlight through the clouds ♪ >>