matt rennie, an attorney says raising the minimum wage would tank small businesses. >> in order to earn that money and pay back into the economy, you have to have the job to begin with. what will happen is when you raise it $15.11 players make the decision there setting the threshold that anyone who works at least 30 hours get paid $15, all my employees working 35 will now work less hours. >> they understand the concerns and raising the minimum wage over a number of years. i'm ashley reporting for chasing news. >> let's bring in the panel to break this down. we are joined by bill caruso, lisa and andre. andre, this is your guy, the question is, $15 that's a pretty big burden for small businesses. >> the more money people make the more money they will spend. it may raise good slightly. >> a legislator put it through last year, they've done it a few times and they did pass an incremental race but someone has to pay it. >> every dollar you put in the pocket of workers go into the economy. they're not putting it into a 4o1k, they're spending it. second, we met with small business owners tha