w was good on immigration. >> he was. >> here is matt rhodes again.e spoke about that infamous 47% comment romney made when he thought it was a closed door fund-raiser. the doors were closed but the tape was on. let's listen. >> i remember speaking to him and, you know, there was a lot of negativity about our campaign as a whole, but he's a person that takes personal responsibility about it, and he would toll me on -- to me, like, you didn't say 47%ings matt. stoort didn't say 47%. i did. and obviously it was not a high moment for our campaign, but i think it speaks a lot to who mitt romney is, and i also like to think it speaks a lot to who this campaign team is that we were able to make a run and come back from that because there were periods during that time where people, and many people in this room, said that we had no chance. we never allowed ourselves to believe that, and the governor never allowed himself to believe that either. >> susan, it was profoundingly to me, here is the people on the center right and far right across the board on that

and then under matt rhodes did a fantastic job coming together. >> rose: this is the campaign manager. >> yes the campaign manager put together a come back plan. look we're the campaign that had been behind michele bachmann, we'd been behind rick perry, behind people who weren't even in the race. we were steady. those are moments when the campaign can either fall apart and start blaming each other and start yelling in the huddle or get together and hang your head down. >> rose: what about when you're speaking to supporters and you talk about the fact that the obama campaign and the president in a sense buy goodies bought the convention. >> this is what happened as far as i know. i wasn't on those calls, but i've heard a recording of the second call. he had some extended talk earlier in the day with a smaller group. and from what i understand, he was much more expansive about what he had, there's no one reason that we lost. we have to look at different things. and then he was on a second call. and i think that he sort of short handed things in a way that didn't come out the way that it

matt rhodes who was the campaign manager. rush reifer who was a business partner. matt moffett their digital director. dan who was their foreign policy advisor, beth meyers. >> bill: you have all of the major players there. what did you learn from the romney campaign? >> just so many nuggets came out of it. when we talked about what happened with clint eastwood, stuart says personally, die think it was a big deal. he goes up to clint eastwood beforehand saying you're going to be talking about the same little speech you gave at two fund-raisers, aren't you? and eastwood -- he looked at him and just said yep and then he goes out and does the empty chair thing. but while that dominated the news of the night and it was part of the their at this of that convention, they didn't think it was determinative. >> bill: they're still in denial. >> the other thing that was interesting is on the selection of paul ryan. so the democrats this we kind of knew. actually, i know from another forum that david axelrod was at the university of chicago institute of politics. he talked ab

and jim messina had to call matt rhodes, mitt romney's campaign messenger and had to send a text beforeomney called. >> i think he conceded in fine time. there awake. john, quickly. >> two fast things. that is on election night, the romney campaign drafted remarks and considered having paul ryan go down to the podium to send everybody home until the next morning. that was a possibility considered until it became obvious that romney was going to lose. the second thing. in '08, there was a mormon documentarian. he cut a documentary made in 2010. the romney advisers spiked it. it's never seen the light of day because the romney high command thought it showed romney talking about his faith in a way that may be politically damaging for them. >> "called the end of the line" written by two great writers, jonathan martin and glenn thrush. we'll be right back. ring. rin. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i can still see you

and jim messina actually had to call matt rhodes, left a message and had to send him a text before romneyat's not fair. i think he conceded in fine time. he did it while we were all there awake. john, quickly. >> two fast things. that is on election night the romney campaign drafted remarks and considered having paul ryan go on to the podium to send everybody home until the next morning. that was a possibility considered until it was clear romney was going to lose. the second thing, in '08 there was a mormon documenttarian that followed romney. the romney advisers spiked it. it's never seen the light of day because the romney high command thought it showed romney talking about his faith in a way that could damage them. >> called the end of the line written by jonathan martin and glen thrush. we'll be right back. i always wait until the last minute. can i still ship a gift in time for christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh... whew. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. ship fedex express by december 22nd for christmas delivery. i just finished a bowl of you

. >> stephanie: his campaign manager matt rhodes wishes he wouldn't have taken such a hard-line rightking of john boner. it's time to hear the christmas special again. ♪ grabbed ma got run over by john boehner, lost her medicare on christmas eve, because he said she don't deserve no health care no medicaid or social security ♪ ♪ he'd been drinking too much eggnog, and we begged him not to go, and then he put on too much bronzer, and he staggered out the tavern to the snow ♪ ♪ when he found grandma that morning, at the base of the fiscal cliff ♪ [ laughter ] ♪ she had orange marks on her forehead, and some cheato flavored tear drops on her cheek ♪ ♪ grandma got run over by john boehner ♪ >> stephanie: boo. [ applause ] ♪ >> stephanie: thank you, rocky mountain mike. daryle in california. you are on the "stephanie miller show." hi, daryle. >> caller: hello. you know that gal that was talking about socialism of obama -- being a socialist -- >> stephanie: oh, that gal would be sarah palin, you mean? >> caller: yeah anyhow how come nobody mentions how much mitt romney and the gop was -- wi

matt rhodes who ran his campaign answered that question and we only have audio so listen to what he saidm and, you know, there was a lot of negativity about our campaign as a whole, but he's a person that takes personal responsibility about it. and he would tell me, you know, to me, like, you didn't say 47%, matt. stuart didn't say 47%. i did. and obviously, it was not a high moment for our campaign, but i think it speaks a lot to who mitt romney is and i also like to think it speaks a lot to who this campaign team is that we're able to make a run and come back from that. >> and if you remember, the campaign went in to a real trough after that. they had to struggle to get out of it. they had a big meeting and five things we need to do. and they tried to do it. >> we all remember the first debate. >> oh, why. >> the president barely showed up for that first debate. you went in detail. >> of course, we, obviously, asked about that. david axelrod, senior adviser to the president kind of fell on his word about the president's lackluster performance. listen to this. >> what we assumed was tha