matt shapiro with mws capital. september is known for selling here but it has been a bullish month.ince march the double digit gains are still holding. what do you think? >> we have seen an extreme run-up. i feel like this rally we've been seeing is slowly running out of steam at this point. in order to get up above dow 10,000 we need a little bit 6 a pull back and gain a little bit of strength. i think we will see dow 10,000 before the end of the year but we need to pull back a little bit, maybe see the low 1030s, lower 1020s in the s&ps before we can get up above 1070. >> matt, the pause that refresh, we've seen buying on every dip in this last 72 hours worth of trading is no different. >> well, really, you know, it has become almost impossible, tom, to get in new portfolios with the market, you know, racing higher as it did. but finally, with the fed announcement there is a lot of good news baked into the market so 1075 is the highest i sold a future in the s&p 500 pit and went straight down from there the volatility, i have to agree with ben, the volume till see it so sensitive,