larry: ace investigative journalist, mac matt taibbi asked, is the electoral fix already in. s not voters, as democrat unveil fans for america's first law fare election. so matt, i will say i read most. i read about it. you make some really tough points. interesting this democrats thought trump would blame them for the insurgent now they blame trump. everything is lawfare, this is din dynamite stuff. >> thank you for having me on. i have been covering president at elections since 2004. normally this time of year, media is interested in what voters think. we're out there going state to state. this year, all of key battles take place in courtrooms with supreme court hearing last week about colorado case. there were complaints filed about robert f. kennedy jr., and on going battle to keep the no labels third party off ballots, in many states. and all of this stuff is designed to make key determinations about who can participate in the election ahead of the 2024 vote. and there is possibility exists that you know, everyone but the major matter candidate on the democratic side, wil

matt taibbi, everybody.rs, here our valentine's day show, joe concha, media politics columnist, fox news contributor, he is not wearing red or pink, caroline downey, politics reporter for "national review." she has some pink on? >> i thought it was red for love, larry. larry: red for roses. matt taibbi, smart guy, not a man of the right. arguably a man of the left but a good investigative reporter. i don't know if you read his stuff or read summaries of this stuff, it is shocking. democrats want lawfare, they want sabotage, they're insurrectionist. >> they're throwing every dirty trick in the book, weaponizing the legal system against trump. trump may be undermining his own electoral prospects by effectively planting taboo in the minds of low propensity blue-collar demographic voters that the election mechanics like early voting and like early voting not, sending a mail-in ballot is jinxed. that is something that trump's legacy is, you know. you only got to go in person, day of. that is the only turn out tha

now, today, michael shellenberger and matt taibbi dropped another bombshell. russia didn't want trump to win in 2016. >> russia wanted hillary and the cia knew it. russia saw hillary as manageable and predictable. they were comfortable with her and wanted her to be president . the russians thought trump was a wild card, didn't want to deal that. there was never any evidence showing putin supporting trump. obama's cia director, john brennan, knew this and manufactured the evidence. >> he manipulated other assessments, buried high quality intelligence, and then manufactured a conclusion that 17 agencies agreed russia interfered in the 2016 elections to help trump and then the press ran with it and the country was brainwashed. now, according to these new reports, these were similar tactics the cia used with the wmd. this is severely wounded. >> our body politic warped our minds and wrecked our trust in national security institutions. we deserve the full accounting of this hoax immediately. every document involved. >> thankfully, matt taibbi and michael shellenber

lastt be night, we brought you a bombshell report from journalists michael shellenberger and matt taibbi. they allege obama's cia notia ha only was involved in the russia hoax, they started ix,t. story >> the story, as you mentioned, was that we were just informed by foreign jus intelligence this. about this. our sources tell us a very ouy, which is that this was initiated by the u.s. government. it came from within the u.s. government's intelligence community, including cia. >> according to this report, obama's cia director,ou john brennan, asked our english speaking allies to target the trumr allies p campaign, hao these foreign intelligence agencies a targerent list of 26u trump associates. ssociatethese 26 trump associat to be bumped, meaninwereg they would be approached by assets bumped into. and these interactions and relationships would be reported to the fbi as suspicious. >> these were people the cia considered peopl easy marks likk george papadopoulos, 20-year-old foreign spies didn't discover evidencecoll of trump-russia collusion and turn it over to the feds. >> foreign spies

they're lying, they're using, this is right out of what matt taibbi said right out of the show, in thexplosive article he wrote, from the democratic playbook, from the democratic playbook of lawfare and weaponization. kerrey, i'm sure you have it, evidence shown reports are very clear that wade and willis spent a foodly amount of time in the white house. what do you think they were doing? do you think they were talking about cutting marginal tax rates or the m2 money supply or you think maybe they were talking about ginning up something to put donald trump in jail for another 700 years, what do you think? >> it is an outstanding question a lot of us want to know the answer to. i don't think we'll find that out today. but exactly, why did nathan wade bill so many hours for white house meetings? what were those meetings about? especially when he is, you're meeting with the political, you know, i don't have to get into all why it is so obviously bad but, it raises a lot of questions about the white house coordination, collaboration, of course, we've not heard back from the white house abo

. >> matt taibbi be, investigative journalist, he certainly not on the left but here is a quote fromcolumn, he says protect democracy, democracy is already been canceled. over a year the biden administration and circuit dropped hints after hit winning in 2024 after trump or anyone else might involve something other than voting, biden campaign irreversible pole, it's going to get worse, put all rhetorical chips on the protecting democracy voters by floating protective democracy she politician claims to be doing the job up to something, the group in the current white house is trying to steal for themselves right that belongs to you, the american public and the people behind it. >> they've and at this for a long time, the think that to kat delete most about that is the claim to be protecting democracy on behalf of the american people and the voters yet they are the ones who were terrified that voters will go against them, take away their power and choose the person they feel most which is president donald trump. >> look at this pole, hispanics and blacks when asked about how they view t

is running the country, i want you to think about it in these terms, i had a conversation with matt taibbillent reporter. he talked about the extents going to subvert democracy meaning of course donald trump being removed from the ballot, dean phillips, democratic candidate being pushed around and trying to be push pd out of the race. you should see the letter sent to third parties like no label, if you have a thumbnail, a finger nail in your closet, we will launch investigations because third party -- joey: wow. intimidation. will: they represent an electability problem for joe biden. my point is all of that done for a man who is really not even in power. all of that done to keep the autopilot, in my estimation, running. oh, here's dean phillips, that man i referenced, who is running for president as a democrat. joey: yeah. >> my phone has blown up with messages from colleagues, surely on both sides to have aisle but, or yes, democratic colleagues who all know better. i think it's a shame, i think it's embarrassing, i think it's sad, and i think it's a shame for a president who could pass

now, a new report, michael shellenberger, matt taibbi and alex, guten tag at public backs up trump's assertion. >> they say the u.s. intelligence community quote illegally mobilized foreign intel intelligence agencies to target trump advisors long before the summer of 2016. yes, this was before the election. the government and foreign powers actually spied on trump along with others in his campaign in order to keep him from running. and you from voting, making them lower than joe biden's on a hot day. allegedly, the u.s. asked the other members of the five eyes. >> love their burgers. these are intel agencies from the u.s., britain, canada, australia and new zealand to spy on trump. in other words, that global criminal enterprise known as the democrats first decided russian collusion was true, then had their comrades look for evidence. >> if true, our spies illegally surveilled united states citizens for political reasons. but why you ask? well, trump was the first real anti-establishment candidate to have a chance at becoming president, and the establishment wouldn't have it. so the

larry: steve hilton, related to this, the matt taibbi story, he is a man of the left but he wrote anre election, an insurrectionist election, they want to sabotage this election. they were going to blame trump. turns out they are the ones sabotaging, lawfareing inner recollecting keeping trump off the ballot. i find that incredible and it's another thing broken in american politics. they don't want to talk about the issues. >> they're totally related, aren't they? because that is the reason they can't talk about the issues because they have been in charge and everything is going wrong. so they have nothing else. their election is entirely about insurrection and abortion. that is it, that's all they have got. they can't point to biden personally. they know he is a disaster. they know the issues are disaster. if you look at these polls, the leads that trump has, not just on the specific issues like immigration and go through the list but on the general question of competence and who will get things done. so they can talk about how trump will -- nikki haley is the chaos candidate but th

on the extent of that hoax with multiple sources confirming to reporters michael shellenberger, matt taibbihat under former president obama the intelligence community including the cia and fbi illegally targeted trump advisers, long before the summer of 2016 is, or with the help of foreign intelligence agencies. the reporters added, quote, after public and racket had been told that john brennan had a identified 26 trump associates for the five is to target, a source confirmed the intelligence community had identified those people as people to bump or make contact with or manipulate. they were targets of our own intelligence community and law enforcement targets for collection and misinformation. joining me right now, one of the people that was swept up in the whole hoax, former trump campaign foreign policy adviser george papadopoulos. george, great to ceo after all of these years -- to see you after all of these years. thank you so much for being here. >> good morning, maria. maria: george, i want you to start with the story of the $10,000 which we talked about so many times back in 2018 a

these are efforts many people have written including matt taibbi, he is not a man of the right, if anythingefforts to sabotage this election and that can't be good for democracy, it just can't be. >> that's right. it was interesting when justice jackson said, will you at least admit, this is to the proponents of disqualification, will you at least admit this is am biggous, if it is ambiguous, why should i read it in a anti-democratic way? it was like getting hit with a two-by-four in the middle of that oral argument. larry: terrific jonathan, the other one on the classified documents report, special counsel hur, the way i read it we can't blame joe biden because he doesn't have all his marbles. you may have read it in a sophisticated analytical way but that is the way i read it. >> i have to tell you this report is a serious disconnect. it is disconnected from the standard for charging and i think that's why they emphasized a jury would find him very sympathetic but what makes him a sympathetic criminal defendant would make i am a perfectly horrible president. they're saying he has diminish

. >> but according to new reportina g by michaele shellenberger and matt taibbi, the whole thing wasiing waa setup. former cia director john brennan identified 26 trump associates to be targeted by the five eyes intelligence alliance. and then those interactions were the targets and were targeted by the fbi as suspicious. and that'se targ how the fbi la. the russia collusion hoax. >> the details of this entire operation have been stored in a top secret binder in a secret room in washington. >> trump ordered the whole.d thu thing declassified. and now the rumor is that the binder might be missing. >> joining me now, one of the reporters who broke the story, michael shellenberger. michael, explain how this all started with the cia picking these 26 trump people.pp >> yeah, good tole be with you, jesse. well, obviously, this is any an extremely serious story and serious allegation by multiple credible sources that public in iraq. that'sle matt toby's publication have spoken to. >> these are people that are close to the house intelligence covestigation of howelligenc rua collusion hoax be

this is what matt ta taibbi said. from democratic playbook of lawfare and we weaponization. i am sure you have seen it. they have spent a goodly amount of time in white house, what do you think they were doing there? do you think maybe they were talking 'coming up with something to put donald trump in jail. >> an outstanding question a lot of us' to know, i don't think we'll find that out today, why did nathan wade bill so many hours for white house meetings? what were those meetings about? when he is you know meeting with the political -- it and i don't have goat get into all of the why, it obviously bad, but raises questions about house world nation and collaboration -- coordination and collaboration, we're waiting to hear whether the judge will make the documents available. we have not gotten answers on that yet. >> gregg jarrett, when do you throw the case out? >> well this is a tough one. for the judge. he needs to disqualify willis and wade for their rromantic affair, this is a conflict of interest. if it is so tainted the creation and the procedures in the case, i thi

and then finally, i had a long conversation with journalist matt t taibbi on the will cain show and heorted on letter that was sent to third parties, they there will be no jill stein this year, there will be no ralph nader this year, no ross perot this career, if you think you're going to interrupt this process, prepare for investigations. the party that claims to protect democracy is doing everything to ensure what we do not have a choice in democracy. rachel: yeah. i mean, the number one issue facing the country with everything going on, i mean, everything blowing up he domestically in terms of the economy and the southern border and national security, we're on the brink of world war iii, you know, internationally, there's so much global instability under this administration and he yet the most important thing is election inat thing gray he at --integrity right now. and by the way, it's not just that american citizens are noticing, it's being noticed abroad, world leaders are beginning to comment. for example, the president of el salvador who just won a record election because he dec

we've had matt taibbi and michael shellenberger and describe what they have been able to uncover and disclose. and i always say sunshine is the best disinfect it and this place needs to be fumigated. and with with those two gentlemen and others like them, we have been able to expose the level of censorship that all of us are living under. and of us are now saying, no more, no more, no more. we're not doing this anymore. so we're getting pushback from the people who need to give who need to be pushing back. so, number one, i think that we need to understand that when congress does not do its job of legislating, we're the only ones who can be held accountable. you brought up in introducing me, i beat liz cheney. i beat her because she did what we didn't want her to do. so we threw her out of office. right. that's called accountability. that's voting does that's the kind of country we have. but who runs the eeoc who's the undersecretary of the of the undersecretary who ensures that we enforce disparate impact rules and regulations? we don't know. they can never be held accountable. well