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. >> brian: matt taibbi i it wasn't too i was not the border czar to i was a good border czar.on the border. that is crazier than i wasn't the border czar. i think some people have to say to themselves this can't happen. you can't change your position on 12 different things without doing an interview and without saying it. but you just want to get the country ready that you are going to change the things you believe in in order to get elected and then who knows what you'll do. >> ainsley: and joe biden used to be moderate. he ran on a moderate ticket. and then he flipped on day one to be so much more progressive than everybody thought. she has a progressive voting record, so don't think she is not -- that is her record. that's how she votes. >> steve: and that's why we are all excited to see that debate. >> brian: got to be more than the debate. got do interviews, too. >> steve: no evidence she is going to do any. >> brian: she has. to say. >> steve: i agree, completely. meanwhile, we have got a fox news alert. the fire department in new york and some families who lost loved on

matt taibbi. glenn greenwald.n naomi wolf. oliver stone. johnny rotten. jordan peterson. eenwell,r ybill. >> tulsi gabbard. another former democrat. jesse endorsed trump today. you're welcome. >> you're welcome. smarhat's with all these smart people acting smart? maybe you noticed something among all thest pe actine clevel thinkers. you don't see any going in the other direction.rection. you're more likely to see caitlyn jenner doing an ad for just men. >>mo mm-hmrem. you laughed. oth those other ones. and not that one. but not people. >> sure. we've had republicans like liz cheney and adam kinzinger, but that's not over policy. that's personality and ego. and. theirs they can't accept. trump is more popular than they are , but sadly for them,pular so is hepatitis thc. >> cartoonist scott adams itmpares. it to people going from windows to mac, the migration is onemigr way, and once you've gone over, you never returnatio becauseecae switching back would be like going from this to swi service. >> now there's another formeris lefty that you all know also came to his senses.