well done robert cahaly, matt towery. join us now with more. matt, you guys got it right three times in a row. the presidential race, everybody was kind of off in 2022, but it was post covid post roe v wade. it was kind of a hard year to poll, but you got the last three presidential elections dead on accurate am i? and i remember nate silver and we put it up the last time you were on actually had praised you guys, but he doesn't mention you guys anymore. why is that? well, first of all, hannity, i've known you since 1992, and i want to thank you for sticking with me and with robert. not only you're a dear friend, but thank you, a great colleague. through all this stuff. but we've been treated like the garbage men of pollsters when they write about the polling from these various, you know, expert groups, they say the quality new york times poll, the quality and seltzer poll. we're never considered the quality decision desks won't use our polling because it's not up to their standards. well, guess what? three times in a row we've gotten this thing

joining us now to expand on it, david, chairman of go pack and matt towery political analyst and pollstermatt, when was david plouffe really aware that -- i watched you talk and you were saying trump is in good shape, in good shape. they were saying no, we are in better shape. do you think they really knew they were in bad shape. >> you know, you never really know, brian, sometimes these internal polls, we don't ever get to test the internal polls. >> we get great at the public pollsters. the internal polls are done by pollsters who are not graded. >> i don't know what they were telling david or weren't telling him. what do i believe it was pretty obvious donald trump started to gain speed really after the second assassination attempt and then when j.d. vance became vice president and had great podcast trump did. trump was on fire. here's my observation. now looking back. i don't believe any democratic candidate could have defeated donald trump. he was too strong. he had the eye of the tiger. he had a perfect campaign team that had fantastic ads and low propensity voters. i don't think an

giving them fair representation and polls and is not easy there are a few of us like matt enter matt towery but most of the others just miss it and they missed it in 2020 and 2016. >> i think women were important. that was the secret sauce for president trump. i made the point last night that women are watching the open border affect the kids learning experiences. you have young kids in schools that initially they were in classrooms of 15 kids or 20 kids. next thing you know 40 kids in the classroom. 50 kids and half of them don't speak english. women were bothered by that and that's a result of the open border. how did you see it. >> as thinking it's a greatest comeback of american history. kamala harris was focused on trump's path and not america's future. a number i can back to 28% say america is on the right track from an income no party to hold the white house you need to have a number closer to 42%. in my home state of florida we saw something we've never seen and that is donald trump won miami-dade county, certainly that wouldn't happen since 1988. not only a great comeback for trump

pollster matt towery joins me now. youth vote, you and i were talking about this just a couple weeks ago. >> yes. >> laura: what was key there, matt? it wasn't abortion, obviously. >> no, i think it was several things. well, the guest you are about to have on charlie kirk, a lot of that have to do with the hard work of groups like charlie's to get these younger voters out and voting. a group hard to engage low propensity voters that's why they got out because of the strategy created by the trump campaign and groups like charlie's. the owner issue was if you remember back in 1980, laura, when reagan won that, was the year when the youngest of voters somehow found an affinity for ronald reagan. it was cool on campuses to be for ronald reagan. that is sort of what happened in this instance. young people, the inflation has effected them. they are confuse dollars because they want to start out life with the optimism. they probably don't feel as pessimistic as the message the democrats delivered. and they dec decide they want

joining me matt towery and host of the bottom line. tt, i loved and predicted that we would have this cavalcade of, oh, harris has the momentum now. she is surging, she is positive. she is not mentioning his name. so predictable. everyone take breath. same people who told us to do social distancing are doing. this what can we glean from final moments? >> let me tell you one thing my polling from last time had the lowest misrate of all the pollsters along with gibraltar in the real clear politics average. i never talk about that. i get treated like garbage by polling experts. the garbage man is going to put everybody at ease. number one, don't pay attention to exit polls. they are always wrong. number two polymarket good prediction market shows trump 58% likely to win 41.6 to harris and that's going down. the next thing can you look for are early voting. trump is outperforming early voting from 2 2000 2016 to 2020. all he need is good election day is he going to carry battleground states. that's another point to i can that. finally, the

the cohost of the polling plus podcast, two of the most accurate pollsters, both in 2016 and 2020 matt towery. insider advantage robert cahaly, trafalgar. good to see you both. matt, what do you see it? well, let me start with this. i know the polling prognosticators and raters are frustrated with us pollsters, some of us, because these polling numbers are so close. there's a reason they're close. robert and i actually saw this race catch up. trump catch up after that second assassination attempt. and we actually pegged that first. but you get to a certain point at which you you can't wring much more out in a poll. and i'll give you an example. in georgia, i just learned tomorrow that fulton county plans on having four election offices open so people can just casually bring in their absentee ballots, which is against the law. and apparently the republican party, there is trying to do something about it. but that's why we have to figure out these turnouts and change these models, because we never know what we're up against. as far as other things, i see, michigan is going to be a push for trum

you should listen to matt towery, robert cahaly. they nailed the last three presidential elections.hey're the pollsters on this show. here with reaction. outkick founder clay travis, along with fox news contributor charlie hurt. clay. they were off by a mile. why were they so off? because, frankly, i think they wanted to believe that donald trump was going to lose and they weren't willing to understand that kamala harris, i think, ran the single worst presidential campaign of any of our lives. can you imagine having an extra billion dollars to spend compared to donald trump, and losing every single swing state and losing ground in all 50 states and losing ground with black, white, asian and hispanic people such that positive, this was the least racially polarized election we've seen in 50 years. and here's my one thing on the nate silver prediction. why would joe biden step down when he and jill biden voted for donald trump? i think unless they're going to step down and actually elevate donald trump early, they ain't going with kamala harris and letting her become the first female p