joan walsh is with salon and an msnbc contributor and matt bennett.ant you to use your imagination, because i know you've got one. think about how ronald reagan, who was a man, when he came into the presidency, seen as a man of the right, clearly. he moved. he was a bit more center right. but key thing was when he left office, for whatever reason, the suburban moderate republican, the hard right out west guy and the deep south dixiecrat type, they all like reagan. so his leadership somehow got them all subsumed under one tent. >> right. >> i think hillary clinton can do the same with the democratic populist wing, that is more associated now with issues like elizabeth warren's issues and maybe howard dean's in the past. but will follow her because she is credible and trustworthy, even if she is a bit more to the center than they are. your thoughts. >> well, look, i think it's too early to anoint her, but i basically agree with you, chris. some writers, both in the center and on the left have exaggerate the extent to which hillary clinton is out of step