the middle could occupy wall street influence the growing number of independents in this country matt welch is going to join us for that one and is the government trying to smear anonymous trying to make us believe that these hacktivists are dangerous to critical infrastructure all just to undermine them our guest tonight argues that it's true we can have all that free tonight and war clearing a dose of happy hour but first take a look at what the mainstream media has decided to miss. all right so there are a number of big foreign policy stories out there today with the announcement that all u.s. troops are going to be leaving iraq by the end of this year and of course the death of moammar gadhafi yesterday in libya now i rarely on the mainstream media yesterday for having a giant celebration about any analysis any questions as to the legality of this entire war but today they only continued to ignore those larger questions and of course they started playing domestic politics with the situation as usual because they just cannot help themselves so today the biggest question for the mainstrea

time for happy hour and joining me this evening is archie producer jenny churchill and matt welch editor in chief of reason magazine and co-author of the declaration of independence thanks for your i mean i think you've got a generator joe already know you are. all you know. matching smiled. and it works when you have a lot to be smiling about because guess what the world was supposed to end today and it did and everybody i think you remember harold camping take a look at em. you. are three already harold camping because he told us a couple months ago the rapture was coming he was so sure those people like sold their homes took their kids to school. it was it's really really sad how many lives a bigger probably completely disrupted by the fact that the rapture didn't actually happen so according to harold camping the rapture is going again today and it i mean for people to stop believing him at some point if we have it like a time certain we have a certain moment when he was like kind of because he didn't want to. defend it in a lot of times. it's not over oh. yes. oh no get me a break t

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in cuts so how do those in the middle libertarians see this movement joining me to discuss it is matt welch editor in chief of reason magazine and co-author of the declaration of independence how libertarian politics can fix what's wrong with america now thanks so much for being so yeah it's been a while since we've had you on the show and if fact the last time that you were here we were speaking about your book but declaration of independence the growing number of independents in america and so how do you take a look at the occupy wall street movement and this you know this energy that we see that's angry with both parties with the entire political system i think the most independents way to look occupy wall street is just to remark that this is happening under it's a left wing movement there's no just like tea party is a right wing movement without any question but it is happening under a democratic president which is something of a tea party which many tea party souls will tell you did not do and they feel a little bit embarrassed by it but it's a left wing movement why what it will what