reason magazine's matt welch. he is so dapper i am surprised his name isn't dan. walton who is appearing in the upcoming film "money monster." and every time i see his head i am reminded to scrub my pots and pans. i almost -- >> i am glad you missed it. >> i was nervous. >> you got cocky with it. >> comedian sam morrell. >> starbucks took out a full spread in today's "new york times" in the "wall street journal." it began, when you read the headlines and turn on the news, when you scroll through score social media feed or listen to the candidates you could easily mistake america as a nation lost. a people who have severed the common bonds that hold us together, compassion, respect, shared responsibility and a belief in service. are you ever behind someone at starbucks and they are take forever to say what they want? the face and page had a bold list of words, presumably a good list and a bad lie. -- bad list. limits versus opportunity. status quo versus daring. many saw it as ceo howard schulz taking a not so bad swipe at donald thrum p. donald trump. and they sai

joining me now is matt welch, editor in chief of "reason" magazine and maria teresa kumar, president no and an msnbc contributor. thank you both for being here. >> thank you. >> thank you, reverend. >> matt is a contested convention a real possibility? >> of course it's a real possibility. if donald trump doesn't get to the 1237 votes -- if california and utah stand up to donald trump, and vote instead for ted cruz, then he's not going to get to that threshold and you'll have a contested convention. the thing is, it's a pipe dream, i think, among the establishment, which has been busy with a most incredible nine-month circular firing squad i think anyone has ever really seen. it's a pipe dream to think that they can get anyone mo is not named ted cruz through on a second ballot at the convention. if they try to get in john kasich or paul ryan or whatever the fever dream is, they're going to have chaos on their hands. it's not going to be seen as legitimate. >> how can this play out, maria? if trump doesn't get the necessary votes to clinch it, they're going to have an open convention,

and matt welch is here from brazen magazine. >> thanks for wearing half a thriller jacket for the showonight. kennedy: zombie ripped off the sleeves. how is donald trump going to convince this powerful nexus to love him. >> he's not. the people he met with are like bob livingston. newt gingrich, they wheeled him out and one of his wives. a lot of the republican congressmen are sitting in seat where they love donald trump. they might disspice the guy personally, but they are going to be afraid to say so because it will potentially cost them the elect. but a whole bunch of senate seats are tossups largely because of the trump effect. the political reporter who follows this tough says it's the trump effect. kennedy: so goes the senate thus goes the presidential elect as well you think? >> it could very well. yes. kennedy: what going on in this meeting? >> right now? kennedy: not right now. if they are still meeting we got problems. >> they are showing trump a copy of the zaruder film. the's getting the riot act read to him. i think they are in a position where they have to realize no matt

for more on this, let's bring in matt welch. the establishment taking some big chances here. congested convention. >> it has been astonishing to watch how badly the establishment has read this the entire time. the establishment block, the rubio, jeb bush, chris christie, john kasich, they have never pulled above. never. a really long time. in new hampshire, the fight over this. john kasich is still in the race. why? what is he doing. >> looking at the numbers and thinking he will be the one being the contested candidate. >> 112% of the vote from now on. you may get close to it. he would have to rely on a contested convention. there's just no scenario to where he can be a possible candidate. cheryl: we will see you. i'm going to play you this soundbite from maria. listen to what he said about the republican party. >> it is obviously threatened by trump. they are orchestrating. they like to control people. they will do whatever they can to practice this little trick four years ago. they changed the rule. they would not allow us to have a token amount. rich: is outlining it righ

we will be back on wednesday with dave smith and matt welch and john devore. >> she has lived to be 110old against her will. a washington tate woman celebrated a big milestone and the spokane affiliate paid her a visit. the interview was magic. >> i am sitting next to the woman on the front page of the spokesman review this morning. this is flossey and check it out. we got her her own good day spokane cold front fee -- coffee mug. she is enjoying her coffee because flossey, you say you are a little tired this morning. >> i am tired. >> i heard your favorite activity at the center is is to take a little nap. >> take a nap as many times as i can. >> a nap as many times as she can. flossey has three children. you have 12 grandchildren and 20 great grandchildren and 15 great, great grandchildren. you sound like a very busy lady. yes. she has lived in multiple places. even lived in arizona. she is originally from oregon and that's where she was born. flossiy, we also have some flowers we would like to give you. >> plossie, cherish those flowers. the interview continues. >> later today flossi

next "red eye" matt walton, matt welch and sam morrell. >> think baby showers are more boring than ben recipes? think again. dudes are doing it now. they said posts about the men only showers rose by 150% in 2015. i believe we have a chart. the bro baby showers revolve around card playing and meat. there are huggies and chuggies and instead of barbecues, bbq's. >> delicious. >> these baby batches have the potential to get more nuts that the twitter rant. take a look at footage from a recent bachelor party. >> i will try to remove it with a rocket launcher. >> you wanted to go listen to it? i said imagine it. it is very different. >> to be fair they get crazier. >> they are a little crazier there. do you think this is a trend? >> no, i think this is a made up story somebody did because they had a magazine piece to it. >> you are just mad because you didn't have one. >> but you work in television. how do you know? >> i don't know. i am projecting i guess. dads want to have a good time and it is chilly handing them diapers. >> it is fantastic and i hope the dads will participate in things

we have adolfo franco, former mccain advisor, matt welch "reason" magazine editor-in-chief. nk you for joining us. matt, let me start with you. will begging work in florida for marco rubio? >> his polling is better than two weeks ago. a couple of polls are in single digits. at a time when polls are really volatile and these primaries are really volatile. don't forget kansas swung 30 points from the last poll with trump up six to cruz winning by 25. things are possible. rubio had really good showing in puerto rico. there are glimmers of hope for him in florida. whether that is real glimmer of hope for the actual primary process is another story. melissa: betsy, what do you think is going on behind the scenes? do you think there is a lot of money trying to keep marco rubio in because he is the last establishment, whatever you want to call, that group of candidates? does he have the jeb bush money behind him or is he out begging for votes and also begging for money. >> you know the jeb bush money has yet to fully coalesce behind senator rubio and this monmouth poll will not do h

editor in chief matt welch and also with us yiamish, thank you for being with us. just looking to see -- okay, so 5:00 closing in kentucky. we do expect momentarily to have some results for us there. can we talk, and let me start with you, yammish, what do you make of the fact we are seeing record turnout, even in a place that may turn out they have never held a caucus before and we saw on people's facebook pages they were angry about what's going on? >> it goes back to what one of the guests said that some people are either voting for trump or voting against trump. the idea is that trump is on everyone's mind. i think he is mobilizing people in a way that maybe he doesn't understand because i cover bernie sanders a lot for "the new york times" and when i go there and talk to people about why are you voting for bernie sanders, even in those events, which are obviously for the democrats, people say, well trump really got me mad and i wanted to come out. this is my first time voting. and i said bernie sanders is running against hillary clinton. they said, oh, no, she