back to matt welch on this.ng the bloomberg campaign helping to do so on bill hemmer's new show, you saw a brief clip in the past hour. he was responded to charlie gasparino's story that bloomberg could spend 2 billion. his point, whether 100 billion or 200 billion, he will spend what is necessary. what will the effect of that on on his own campaign. is he is serious candidate? >> some local television stations are happy to drive up rates to all candidates from here on out. michael bloomberg's problem is that he has kind of no plausible way to get to the democratic nomination. he is joe biden insurance. if something -- connell: what if bernie sanders won the first two, iowa, new hampshire? would that give him a chance. >> there is no reason to believe the democrats prefer michael bloomberg to joe biden. there is not a single thing about michael bloomberg, with the possible exception, he is sharp on his feet, all that stuff. keep in mind, democrats hate his guts. we had primary season where a lot of people talkin

panel party panels back in a step in, michael star hopkins, and matt welch.s make it the beginning of the memo is this is not just a tap dance the campaign talking. this is really serious. and up one of them is elected, they are going to have to clean up with this president has done now. but they have to very clearly outline where's the line and when you act? >> and also what does withdrawal look like? for me one of the better things about the field, and there are many in the field including tall see mayor pete and elizabeth warren. they would say we will take our troops back home from afghanistan. which is something trumpets said he wants to do but it's been talked out of it. but that is also going to leave a vacuum. a vacuum is knocking to bni ran it is in iraq right now. the trump administration has a weird flurry of memos going out with the confusion whether we are still planning leaving i rack when the parliament total to take a long walk off a short period. but that does create vacuums. but what is the balancing test for you. do you create a vacuum or d

that panel is back emily campagno rochelle ritchie, and matt welch.over-up degree that are no? >> i don't agree with that in the larger picture i don't agree with is her public sentiment when as you aptly pointed out nobody cares anymore. her strategy has been painfully transparent, included and she basically said we just want to check a box. we just want to say for eternity that president trump has been impeachment to the tune of what? to our tax dollars and for no achievements made. and i think the bottom line is that's the gamut she's been running, it has run out of steam. iowa caucuses are around the corner. those protesting that's going on my run, such a bigger deal. and americans care about their own healthcare. they care about anything but this. they are totally disinterested in her time has passed. i keep thinking there's something up her sleeve it's going to make this worthwhile for democrats. because frankly it is burning them all to the ground. chris: five summer interested but fewer and fewer are interested and fewer people support impeach

our guy matt welch, the editor of large of "reason" magazine. matt is with me in the studio. kim, let me start with you there in lebanon. i know that you were listening very closely to what we heard from the secretary of state there a few moments ago, mr. pompeo. your general reaction to what you heard there from mr. mompom and what we have heard and see so far from the administration at large. >> well, when it comes to the idea that the united states would strike iranian cultural sites, i this i that wounk that terrible mistake. i find it hard to believe they would go ahead with plan like that because the consequences of that would be beyond nick we could imagine. on the other hand, no one expected that any u.s. administration would go ahead and actually kill cast qassem soleimani in a targeted drone strike. so we are in unchartered territory. what some understand what the president has been saying in terms of targeting cultural sites, he's referring to iranian cultural centers that the revolutionary guards do often use as staging posts for intelligence operations overall i

along with editor at large and the host of the fifth column podcast the award-winning shown it to matt welch, and we've got attorney and young voice senior contributor tyler grants. all right, lady gentlemen let us begin. so michael bloomberg, this is really fascinating to me because you have progressive candidates who are -- get a lot of money from grassroots small donors with the idea that corporations are evil, money is bad, and the worst mary jive all is money in politics and within their own party michael bloomberg is spending $2 billion how do you reconcile that? >> i am not a bloomberg fan used to work for him. mike bloomberg is very hard to attack on this basis because of the number of races that he has one by donating to progressive causes. >> 's which is interesting because tom steyer can't do the same thing. he threw much of money it races -- he does not have the political instinct of michael bloomberg and he would not have won three mayors races in new york city, he would not of been a republican and independent. speedy by de blasio 12 got awful. >> but he is not worn upwards of

michael worked on the campaigns of barack obama and hillary clinton and matt welch.s a saying in politics nothing is more valuable than the candidate's time. how critical do you think it is for those four senators not to be in iowa or new hampshire, at least largely not there? >> certainly not helpful. a lot of them are sending surrogates, but since there's such an undecided field in iowa, i don't think surrogates will help them. i think it will be a boone to joe biden and mayor pete in the ability to meet new voters, talk to new voters. at the end of the day, i don't think it makes a difference. >> do you agree, matt, there's an argument to be made with all of the country's attention on impeachment, maybe i am making an assumption that isn't actually so, but could this in fact maybe benefit those senators? >> cannot benefit amy klobuchar. she's from the midwest, i don't know if you heard this, she needs to get a good result in iowa. >> she also has been somebody who you hear voters in iowa say i wasn't thinking about her, but when i went to her event, when i met her