i miss the woods for tobacco third-party panel, katie pavlich, matt welch and michael gordon.or weeks on the vaccine marketing has been horrible. have half the country who is scared to take the job. yet have the government saying hey man even if you get the shot you've got to mask and stay away from each other for another year. >> right. so we are in a race right now between the vaccine and the variants. i think the vaccine hesitancy has gotten better. i know there are people in trump country her a little bit afraid of the vaccine. i think they'll get over it eventually. see for their communities of color freighted the vaccine. >> yes by think of more and more people whether people of color, people and trump country regardless are going to get over of it. i know people get vaccinated there will be heard and unity. i've been optimistic at every point in the lesser been proven wrong every points. i actually think of the vaccine front where they cost very good news. see further making more vaccines every day. they are becoming more and more available to groups of people. there th

matt welch pointed out in reason, you should have a pretty substantial data set showing from, as yoution the private schools, the catholic schools, the schools in florida what happens when kids are back in school and they are 3 feet apart. are they dropping like flies? >> no they are not. you interesting appoint out florida basement but 10,000 $70 per student per year which is about 29% less the national average. and essentially all their students have access in person learning options full-time. more then you look at places like california that spends about 38% more per student per year than florida, and they have much stronger teachers unions. get their state is mostly closed or in person instruction. in families don't have that option over there. this contrast between these two locations again show each of its more about politics and power than it is about safety and the needs of family. i did a recent study at mit, we found no evidence to suggest that higher purple spending across 12000 different school districts the united states, it is not associate with the higher likelihood o