my guests, matthew alfred and muhammad desai are still with me. thank you, gentlemen for sticking around. let me start with muhammad. any reaction to any of the stories that we have covered so far? i think that one. on the one hand, whilst israel has especially on the african continent and to some degree attempting on in latin america, whilst israel has tried to use economics and has tried to use finance, has basically tried to bribe uh african states and african nations for its support or for their support for its positions. i think that israel in the main has been failing, i think that the... african continent, both a government level, but also a people level, are still ensuring that old links to the palestinian struggle and to the palestinian people are remaining and are only but increasing. we've seen this in the recent past, where israel attempted to enter the african union, but that decision is now being put on hold, we know that israel tried to had an africa israel conference, and that conference was cancelled. we know various other attempt