perhaps this matthew axelrod was advised by someone else to call over to mccabe and say we don't wantore problems with this investigation. >> absolutely. our understanding with the justice department includes looking at documents that their search terms yield documents but we will also be able to say we want to use our search terms to find email communications and other communications and other documents related to that very matter because that goes right to the core of our investigation into how the fbi handled all the matters related to former secretary clinton during 2016 and on into 2017. >> laura: this is a quote from brad schultz men whose referencing whether sally yates could have been the person, at one point acting attorney general. they are pointing to her on this. "in my experience these calls are rarely made in a vacuum. the notion that the principal deputy would've made such a decision and issued a directive without the knowledge and consent of the deputy attorney general which she was the time is highly unlikely." he was counsel to the principal associate deputy during t

matthew axelrod. he's a doj prosecutor who is involved in the case. they talk about him.hey talk about the frustration, they talk about andy mccabe coming under fire or by some of these folks of the doj for the suppose it information that was in the application. then they say two days later after these text messages are exchanged, matthew axelrod actually goes to the white house and assigns a visitor log and actually visits president trump. i think what we are looking at here is little pieces of the puzzle. how much did people in the white house no? to the president know about this investigation himself? what we do know now is based on information that came out last week, is that very senior mobile levers and the fbi, cia, and in the white house, were well aware of this investigation early on and may have coordinated. >> sean: gregg? >> i think the big news really comes out of the court documents. thanks to manafort's attorneys, we know that rosenstein admits that he wrote intentionally a vague order in his appointment of mueller trying to mislead the american public. >>

investigations involving suspect corrupt officials and i can tell you that conversation that -- matthew axelrod had with director mccabe asking him to stand down. agents working the collecton investigation was improper. you know i do not agree or support what many things mccabe did. his push there to justice department officials telling them they were attempting to influence an investigation was improper. i agree with. and -- unfortunately, it was his disclosure of that conversation that of course caused him problems and now they made a criminal referel to the justice support. >> shouldn't axel rod be called to testify about this? if that is how it within down? >> sure. i don't doubt there are a number of i don't believe he made that -- phone call on his own. i don't doubt we did not discuss the matter. i don't doubt there are e mails and other texts surrounding the call because i will say this, i worked 35 years and ran the corruption squad for a number of years. nobody made a phone call to me attempt to get us influence in investigation that was already opened predicated and had much you know