. >> yeah, and by the way, cheap promo, but later on we have matthew harrison on, you will want to hearhat he has to say, that is coming up later on in the show but back to this, we look at the banks, do you have to be a believer that interest rates will continue to rise? we're still under 1% on the ten year do you have to believe that interest rates will continue to rise in order to like the banks or can they succeed even if interest rates get stuck here? >> i think that you have to believe that interest rates will rise over time you know, they don't have to go up today, but it will be tough for them to really get their earnings power back without some sort of rise in rates. again, they work on the spread in a lot of things and they are making up for it in other areas at least somewhat. in the short run, they don't see a bunch of loan losses which if the economy continues to recover, then they probably won't see that either. so that is the short term boost. longer temp boost is that if the economy continues to recover, you will see rates drift naturally higher over time and that will b