i followed matthew heimbach, who is a neo-nazi and a creates violence wherever it goes. this i this isn't too much tipping telling of a spoiler. he was to go on and lead the march in charlottesville. so and to be actually arrested for the violence that ensued there. so i'm following and he in the course of some 20 interviews i did with him kind of changed his mind and you know well i really shouldn't said what i said about whites and blacks it shouldn't just be for white. it's for all all working class. so he. okay. but i was following another march too. it was this march for. trump and so while nobody really in this little village went for a high mark, they say he's too extreme. grandfathers fought and world war two against the kinds of ideas buried. so while that march failed, the march for, trump picked up steam and trump ended up inviting neo-nazis tomorrow long ago and increasingly embracing a violence. so the two figures in the book kind of crossed in a way. and so what became fascinating for is why. one rhetoric turned them off. but another in the hands of another