our next guest is one technical indicator out there that's flashing a buy signal let's bring in matthew kimmel with coin shares. you have to convince me, matthew, why this actually might work this time why do you think >> first, thanks for having me what i can tell you is there are several positive signals that could mean that bitcoin is soon entering the stage of more price stability or even nearing a market bottom. the first is that investors that bought in the previous market cycle, back in 2016, 2017 on the rise up to $20,000 per coin have resisted the urge to sell their coins in this past market high at any point last year when they could have realized gains. this is sort of a signal suggesting there are conviction among some bitcoin, and so minors are laborers adding transaction to bitcoin block chain and we're in the capitulation, and once we reach full capitulation the excess supply that they've been releasing and selling into the bitcoin market could soon dry up and that means they could again begin accumulating bitcoin as they have done historically. >> that kind of assumes that dema