one of the awesome things you said you can look over at matthew mcconnaughey and say, i'm way cooler than you will ever be, dude. >> but i want to-- kathy and i have a lot in common, we both grew up in kentucky and we both went into male dominated national security. alexandria virginia, and training at quantico, but we both had this dream at a very young age and i wanted to ask you because you talk about it a little in your book. how does that come about? you sort of knew that while you liked kentucky, you knew deep down, you wanted something else. can you talk about that? >> you know, i have to say as a little girl, you grew up on a big farm, but i discovered the rest of the world through books and to me, books are everything. i learned through books that there's something else. there's a lot more out there and i was determined to see it. so, stories that they take me to other places and i think that that's really what gave me the adventurous bug and for some reason, probably my mom, watching her and she didn't have many choices. she grew up in a time when there were no choices and