i'm going to be joined by matthew pennycook. he's the housing and planning minister.'m going to be asking him whether the government can meet its housing targets, and how it plans to accommodate nearly 5 million new migrants by 2032. i'll also, of course, be asking him about the andrew gwynne scandal, let's call it that, because it certainly is. i'm also going to be joined by alex burghart. he's the shadow chancellor, chancellor of the duchy of lancaster, basically kemi badenoch sort of de facto deputy. i'm going to be asking him about her plans for limiting legal migration and what he makes of reports of a megadeal between nigel farage and wait for it, boris johnson. reform archewell, former tory mp. now she's a reform greater lincolnshire mayoral candidate. dame andrea jenkyns joins me. i also want to ask her about the mega pact, because she knows nigel farage and boris johnson very well. is there anything in that mail on sunday story? i'm going to be speaking to britain's strictest headmistress, katharine birbalsingh, head of michaela academy in wembley. she's goin

well, housing minister matthew pennycook has praised sir keir starmer for acting decisively. >> commentsade by andrew gwynne are completely unacceptable that this is going to be a government that upholds the highest standards of conduct in public life, where a government in service of working people. so we've taken decisive action to dismiss andrew gwynne as a minister. as is the case, there's a live investigation going on in terms of the labour party. he's been andrew gwynne has been administratively suspended. he's lost the labour whip. i don't know what was said in those whatsapp groups. it wouldn't be appropriate for me to comment. >> meanwhile, shadow chancellor alex burghart says andrew gwynne's comments show. sir keir starmer hasn't got a hold of antisemitism within the labour party. >> the worst thing that i've seen mr gwynne say on that group was that one gentleman was too jewish. now, keir starmer claims that he's gotten on top of this problem in the labour party, but he clearly hasn't. we need to know who else was on that group. did they call andrew gwynne out when he said tha

meanwhile, housing minister matthew pennycook praised sir keir starmer for acting decisively. >> commentsade by andrew gwynne are completely unacceptable that this is going to be a government that upholds the highest standards of conduct in public life, where a government in service of working people. so we've taken decisive action to dismiss andrew gwynne as a minister. as is the case, there's a live investigation going on in terms of the labour party. he's been andrew gwynne has been administratively suspended. he's lost the labour whip. i don't know what was said in those whatsapp groups. it wouldn't be appropriate for me to comment. >> but shadow chancellor alex burghart said andrew gwynn's comments just show sir keir starmer hasn't got a hold of antisemitism within the labour party. >> the worst thing that i've seen mr gwynne say on that group was that one gentleman was too jewish. now keir starmer claims that he's gotten on top of this problem in the labour party, but he clearly hasn't. we need to know who else was on that group. did they call andrew gwynne out when he said that? if

i'll ask matthew pennycook when he comes on later. housing minister, does this guy actually have a role in parliament at all? why is he should he be able to remain an mp even as an independent? if this is the way he talks about his constituents? >> absolutely. can't party leaders just say just stop doing it, stop doing it? >> i can't help but think, if this was a tory and the labour were attacking them, they'd be saying that this guy needs to be booted out of the houses of parliament altogether. let's move on to the sunday times. i've spoken with two of so bebe king and el—sisi parents have. spoken . elsie stancombe parents spoken. elsie stancombe parents have spoken for the very first time to the sunday times. and i mean, i did have a tear in my eye reading this in the car on the way here. nick. >> this is heartbreaking. this is absolutely heartbreaking. >> and they make an interesting point in this piece. i do urge people to just read their first hand testimony of, you know, how they got the girls into the dance group, how they hear

well, the housing minister matthew pennycook, praised sir keir starmer's response, saying he acted decisively>> comments made by andrew gwynne are completely unacceptable, that this is going to be a government that upholds the highest standards of conduct in public life, where a government in service of working people. so we've taken decisive action to dismiss andrew gwynne as a minister. as is the case, there's a live investigation going on in terms of the labour party. he's been andrew gwynne has been administratively suspended. he's lost the labour whip. i don't know what was said in those whatsapp groups. it wouldn't be appropriate for me to comment. >> in other news, tonight, the parents of two girls killed in the southport knife attack say they are looking for light in they are looking for light in the darkness. speaking to the sunday times, seven year old elsie dot stancombe and six year old b.b. king's families remembered their daughters as confident, happy and intelligent. they also opened up about their children's funerals and the support they've received from their communities in t

housing minister matthew pennycook praised sir keir starmer for acting decisively. >> comments made byndrew gwynne are completely unacceptable, that this is going to be a government that upholds the highest standards of conduct in public life, where a government in service of working people. so we've taken decisive action to dismiss andrew gwynne as a minister. as is the case, there's a live investigation going on in terms of the labour party. he's been. andrew gwynne has been administratively suspended. he's lost the labour whip. i don't know what was said in those whatsapp groups. it wouldn't be appropriate for me to comment. >> meanwhile, shadow chancellor alex burghart said andrew gwynne's comments just show. sir keir starmer hasn't got a hold of antisemitism within the labour party. >> the worst thing that i've seen mr gwynne say on that group was that one gentleman was too jewish. now, keir starmer claims that he's gotten on top of this problem in the labour party, but he clearly hasn't. we need to know who else was on that group. did they call andrew gwynne out when he said that