. >> matthew schwartz? >> you said the rules affect broadband buildout and investment and infrastructure. do they have a more grievous effect on the continued viability of certain companies, for example, a cap on the amount the fcc will support, $250? there have been a lot of labor request. manyere have not been approved. have you noticed? with perhaps one or two. danger?our members in >> i hope not. part of our job is to make sure we figure out first ball had to correct this, and second of all, how to create a broadband future for their consumers. it is a really good question. a big part of that problem with is retroactive. applying to investments urd made. you didn't know what you did not know. you put money in the ground thinking you would complete it. suddenly you are finding the rug pulled out from an eq. that is tough for folks. prospectively, if we can get the cap, instead of having caps be triggers, the fcc is trying to make sure folks are not bending too much money, that things are within a budget,

matthew schwartz is with "communications daily," a reporter. ms. bloomfield, aren't the economies of scale against your smaller members anymore? >> guest: it is not easy. i will say that, you know, again, when you're putting that plant in, you know, it's tough to do it when you've got a small population base that you're bulling out towards. however -- building out towards. however, there's a couple of things that i think has really helped in terms of scope and scale. some of it my folks are kind of realizing there's a lot of synergies they can get from working together in different business areas. so one of the initiatives that i find very, very exciting is in about 30 states. my carriers have come together and built state fiber networks. so they all become owners, as you will, of their own state fiber network. and these state fiber networks are doing an amazing job of doing backhaul for the large wireless carriers, for connecting a lot of large institutions, and they're a able to kind of share that network not only in their own service territory,

. >> host: joining our conversation is matthew schwartz or order with "communications daily." >> guest: thank you. ms. bloomfield in 2007 the sec instituted massive reforms at the service regime. they reduced the amount of support that they give to rural carriers in some instances. implemented a one tile regression formula which is the subject of much angst at the fcc. were they now compare rural to similarly situated peers to determine if the cost is high. how have these rows affected your members? >> guest: it's phenomenal the impact it's had and when you said the analysis has created angst at the fcc you can begin to imagine the angst it's created. first of all just understanding what the quantizer regression analysis that done. it's a complex statistical model that is based on all these different variables that try to compare apples-to-apples so we try to compare the costs of the company in alaska for example where they have basically three months where they can do investment to a company that's down in the panhandle of florida. you really can't begin to come up with a model that w