matthew segal is president of ourtime.org. he was at the white house this week discussing the issue. evan feinberg is president of generation opportunity. last year he made an unsuccessful run for congress as a republican. also joining us is anya kamenetz. she's the author of "generation debt." welcome all. >> thank you. >> brown: matthew segal, let me start with you. before the president and the congress, what in a nutshell do you think is the best approach right now? >> i think first of all we need to put this in a larger context and go after the source of the problem which is the spiraling cost of education in the first place which is far outpacing the cost of inflation. it's far outpacing the cost of any good. and until we really rein in on the cost of education, look at the states, 47 states have cut higher education, look at the fact that colleges are not necessarily spending their money on learn bug, in fact, on the college experience, investing their money in the wrong sorts of priorities that are for prestige as oppos

later in the program we will be joined by a matthew segal. he will be here to talk about issues important to young americans. you are watching "washington journal." we will be right back. ♪ >> when you talk about transparency to the american public, there is -- you are going to give up something. you are going to be giving signals to our adversaries as to what our capabilities are. the more specific you get about the program, the more specific about the oversight, the more specific you get about the capabilities and successes, to that extent you have people sitting around saying, "ok, now i understand what it can be done with our numbers in yemen and in the united states and consequently i am going to find another way to communicate." there is a price to be paid for that transparency. where that line is drawn, in terms of identifying what our capabilities are, is out of our hands. if you tell us to do it one way we will do it that way. there is a price to be paid for transparency. >> robert muller makes his last scheduled appearance before th

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we are joined by matthew segal. they use a photo database of almost 120 million people to and we willpects talk to the national reporter. washington journal live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> this is a challenging time for people who are conservative. we have a quite liberal democratic president who has not only been elected but reelected after putting in place some ideas and programs and projects that, i think, are very wrongheaded. they had a chance to think about that and they reelected him. it's a challenging time. .t's also an exciting time what we're trying to do is modernize conservativism and and bring it in line with what the country is facing now to help the country and conservatives think about how to confront the challenges of the 21st century. neither party is doing a very good job of that. there's a lot of opportunity to think about what america and the 21st-century needs to change to change about the way it governs itself to get back to economic growth, prosperity, a kind of cultural revival that