matthew whitaker, as always great to have you with us.: up next, the united states placing sanctions on those responsible for cyber attacks. we will tell you what those attacks were targeted at and the role of north korea. general jack will be joining us. up next radical dems take the stage in houston with mixed results. >> take your ar-15, ak-47. >> to create a pathway to citizenship for our dreamers and for their grandparents and for the cousins, people who have overstayed student visa. >> people who actually buy into the hateful rhetoric around immigrants are people who do not know anything. >> play the radio and make sure the television and the record player on at night, make sure kids hear words, they come from a very poor school in newburyport background will here 4 million words spoken fewer when they get there. lou: after watching that, no wonder the trump campaign actually said to the dems, thank you for your pro trump and for mr. player from assistant to the president, they will take up what with those people were thinking. fact

matthew whitaker was acting attorney general under president trump and he joins us now. on. what do you make of this report? >> well, the memo in and of itself is extraordinary because it captures a moment in time between the firing of jim comey and the appointment of thein special counsel and it really, to some extent, lays out the entire conversations that andy mccabe as acting deputy -- as acting fbi director had with deputy attorney general rosenstein and others and i just extraordinary that they were having a discussion whether or not it was a joke, as i've heard i rosenstein allege,f wearing a wire into the white house, into the oval office and recording the president. it is -- i can't imagine under what circumstance that conversation would have come up and would have been had between those two people. >> tucker: so you've worked at this level of government at a long time. assess the likelihood that it was a l joke. >> so at the time, i was the chief of staff, when rosenstein issued that extraordinary statement and then another statement on top of that when the fir

attorney general matthew whitaker, great to have you with us.u may gauge, i'm a little frustrated with the justice department that is moving with so little, i have every reason to believe that william barr is the right man for the right job at the right time. too many people i respect immensely and i accept that. what i cannot accept is any more of the nonsense, this is something transparent. why for example, we not have the scope in front of us right now. >> why would that not be in front of the market people? >> ims price they were not part of miller's report. he seems to put every other word into that report in the 448 pages in those memos or something that i think would eliminate some people as to what the investigation was and wasn't. >> there were scope memos and one of the things that we will learn in those memos is what crimes were being investigated, and i think to some extent, it may or may not help us with the origins of this investigation. lou: we need the right as americans to see these documents, we don't need nonsense attorneys si

many on the left rushing to conclusions about the whistleblower's complaint but matthew whitaker sayshat is exactly what the whistleblower wants. >> this is a clear example of someone that is part of the deep state in the intelligence community taking advantage of this whistleblower procedure and trying to create this firestorm and i think it is completely overblown, this person who clearly disagreed with whatever position the president took in his conversation wanted to get that out there, their version of politics was different and they disagreed with whatever he said and they are trying to get that out, give it to the washington post and congress, doing what they intend to do. shannon: despite no direct evidence of wrongdoing many of the president's critics are again calling for impeachment. another fox news alert, the jersey man charged with serving as a secret hezbollah operative in the us for more than a decade, prosecutors say he was scouting locations for potential attacks. aishah hasnie joins us how the feds uncover the terror ties and certainly glad they did. >> reporter: it

former acting attorney general matthew whitaker is now calling the whistle-blower accusation a clearxample of the deep state in action and joining us now is the man himself. former acting attorney general of the united states, matt whitaker period, thank you for joining us. first thing i thought, i heard about this, anonymous, intelligence. heard the president's conversations with world leader. maybe i'm old-fashioned. i'm thinking wow, who in the intelligence community might've been spying on the president of the united states because that wouldn't be a good situation for the country. your thoughts. >> well, it's clear that somebody had access to very sensitive information, telephone call or telephone calls with foreign leaders with the president of the united states and they did two things. they tried to get the information to the democrats on capitol hill and they try to get it to "the washington post" ." it's funny to me that really with a foreign policy disagreement, the president has such broad latitude in how he managed the foreign affairs of our country under the constitution

former acting attorney general matthew whitaker suggests this whistle-blower complaint is a political the president. >> what i see is a very clear example of a deep state intelligence member who is trying to get a disagreement, a policy disagreement, out on this issue. bottom line is that this is another attempt by people that disagree with this president's foreign policy, to undermine hi him. >> harris: andy mccarthy, former u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york and the fox news contributor, thank you for being with me. let's talk about this and two lanes. let's get to the legal. what happens with the whistle-blower? protection, the president saying this person is artisan. layout the legality for me. >> i think, harris, the legality here is the biggest rabbit hole. in terms of constitutional law, the president has almost plenary authority to conduct foreign policy. but the congress has a very legitimate interest in how that foreign policy is conducted and what commitments the president makes. that is all fine. this statute, i don't think it applies to the president. i d

republican senator john kennedy and former acting attorney general matthew whitaker both standing by the way in this evening on all of this, but first, democratic congress man eric swalwell, he was in a closed-door meeting with speaker pelosi just before she made this very big announcement and he sits on the house judiciary and intelligence committees. i was meant, thank you very much for being here. >> of course, good evening, martha. >> martha: the president authorized the full release of the transcript of his conversation. did you want to see that may be before going this. >> what we want to see, martha, is the whistle-blower complaint where the inspector general said it's urgent and it's credible. >> martha: the ideas going to testify, the dni -- >> incorrect. incorrect. no, not true. not true. that's not true. they have so far said they are not going to give that to us. we are going to get testimony from a director of national intelligence, they have not produced the whistle-blower, so the law says -- there's no discretion here when you have an urgent and credible complaint, con

want to bring in matthew whitaker former acting attorney general.want to read some of the headlines. "washington post" whistleblower complaint about president trump involves ukraine according to two people familiar with the matter. "new york times." what is this about, matt, as you see it right now? >> what i see is a very clear example of a deep state intelligence member who is trying to get a disagreement of policy disagreement out on this issue and now we learn overnight it involves ukraine and again by monday we'll probably know the whole story but the bottom line is that the -- another attempt by people that disagree with this president's foreign policy to undermine him. as the president of the united states he has broad discretion in foreign policy arena and there are people that have been long-time intelligence community members and diplomats that just disagree with both his style and substance. i think it's a shame that there are people like this that won't just put their name on it and won't say why they believe they disagree on issues with

matthew whitaker, who was the former acting attorney general has this observation about the deep statepart of the deep state in the intelligence community taking advantage of this whistle blower procedure and then trying to create this firestorm i there it completely overblown where this person who clearly disagreed with whatever the position the president did take in this conversation wanted to get that out there. their version of world politics was different. and they disagreed with the president whatever he said. so they are trying to get that out and they get it to the "the washington post" and they get it to congress doing exactly what they intend to do by this story running. brian: do you know what the debate is? do you like the president's policy on the ukraine? that's what normally happens. the president in a conversation is story is controversial, the president's policy on the ukraine. is it worse than barack obama's policy on the ukraine where you let the russians steam roll the whole country and give them blankets to help them out? that's the biggest controversy. that's the