maybe we should put that to the matthew's meter. we asked the meter who got the better deal out of the arrangement so far? ten say the president has, including all four of you here. two on the meter say it is a tie. david, you say win for obama. >> he won the election. chris: in the deal. >> well, i think because he's a self-confident guy and the most self-confident guy in history of humanity. he controls foreign policy making from the white house. we've seen it in russia and the middle east. that said, i'm not sure you see a big policy difference between the two. i have not seen any daylight between the two. there have been rifts but they seem to be getting along even though he's dominating. >> chris: will they meet the standard baker set, there has to be a seamless policy administration. >> i'm always asking who is running it, and i can't see a difference. so yes. >> they have a good cop, bad cop thing going. chris: like what? >> when hillary gave her speech. she was talking about iran and she said it was demoreable and unacceptabl

chris: let's take a look at the matthews meter. we asked the meter to all our regular panelists when the senate vote on the final bill, will at least a handful of republicans go along with the bill? one says no. you're with the 11. you say there's likely to be a signature bill for the president with republican support. >> well, republican support may be one or two republican members of the senate. the two big sticking points are the whole question whether there's a public plan or not. and there's going to be semantic things about that. what type of taxes and how? i think in the end, they'll be able to craft something that may be able to get a couple of republican senators to get along. chris: "the final days of bush and cheney." the repeated appeals for cheney for bush to pardon scooter little bitty. remember that he was accused of lying and obstructing justice. here's saturday night life's -- saturday night's take. >> we also put aside time to share them with each other. so tonight, we thought during this some what acromonious pol

meter, which means greater savings... for people with diabetes, like me. glenn: back with matthew spalding.there is a new bill that is come through and this is all about control of your student education and your student loans. explain this just a little bit, briefly, again, matthew. >> two things are happening that are now connected. one is government is going to take over all student loans and do it directly. they're going to control who gets the money and where it goes, how, and they have that pot of money, and now they're expecting that money to national service. you can go to americorps or work at their chosen volunteer group for ten years and all that debt goes away, so you get a direct loan from government and then you're indebted to government. private market goes away. glenn: americorps, basically the new acorn, but -- forget about acorn. this is the government he's acorn. this is inside. it's turning into an absolute nightmare. you now have your loan's tied in -- i want to see if i have this in. they are going to forgive your loans if you work for the government or one of the appr