we put it to the matthews meter. is the anti-obama venom esultidable or partly a of his own mistakes? six say it was unavoidable but six say he partly brought it on himself. howard? what's the president done wrong? >> i think it relates to what helene was saying. he hasn't always spoken to main street. in his situation, the change agent that he is, he needs to be ever-aware, maybe unfairly so but ever aware of reassuring people on the right side of the street on main street. norah: joe, you say the craziness and anti-obama hating was unavoidable. >> i was at some town meetings, most recently in arkansas. this is an awful lot about race. you can't avoid it. he was born black. it's not only that, it's about the fact that in middle america among white people, especially working class white people, they're seeing all this stuff. they're seeing latinos in arkansas, quite a few of them, move into the neighborhoods. they're seeing south asians running a lot of businesses. they're seeing enter marriage, all these things that

chris: we put it to the matthews meter. 12 of our regulars, first, will president obama propose a new stimulus package? this is a dead idea. eight say no, four say it will. so he's going to give that 2-1 ain't going to happen. and then will president obama propose income tax increases? this surprised me. 6-6. kathleen, you're with the meter and said no to any new taxes. but yes to a stimulus. you're in the minority. no new taxes. you think that's a good bet. new tacks. >> no new income taxes. i'll stick with that. chris: everybody agree? >> until the second term. chris: everybody agree? >> i don't know how you can pay for the whole pie without raising taxes. chris: anybody else say raise taxes? >> after the election. >> after the mid-term election. chris: let's go around with this big question here. let's bring it back to this question of the health care bill. which is certainly hasn't passed yet and may not pass. but if it gets through, he gets through something that's substantively important, the democrats have a signing ceremony, will it help the market and people say it shows this