and by the mattson mchail foundation in support of public television. and also by mfi foundation, improving the quality of life within our community. and also by the alice clayburg reynolds foundation and viewers like you. thank you. >> i'm evan smith. he's the hipster historian, as comfortable editing hunter s. thompson's letters as ronald reagan's diaries. a professor at rice university, he is an author as popular and critically acclaimed as he is prolific, with six new york times notable books of the year and several best-sellers to his credit. his latest book is the quiet wilderness kingdom, 1879-1960. he's douglas brinkley. this is overheard. cler >> doug, good to see you. >> nice to see you. thanks for having me. >> thank -- thank you for being here. so the -- it's not a coincidence that this is the second book in a row with the word wilderness in the title? >> well that's right. a few years ago i wrote the book called the wilderness warrior on theodore roosevelt and it was really about the birth of conservation in the united states dealing with g