and by the mattson mchale foundation in support of public television. and also by mfi foundation, improving the quality of life within our community. and also by the alice kleberg reynolds foundation and viewers like you. thank you. >> smith: i'm evan smith. he's an icon of public media and progressive politics whose first job in journalism, as a cub reporter in marshall, texas, was more than six decades ago. his newest public television show, moyers and company, debuts this month. he's bill moyers. this is overheard. >> smith: bill moyers, welcome. >> moyers: my pleasure. >> smith: so good to see you, an honor to have you here. >> moyers: good to be home. >> smith: thank you. well, welcome home. >> moyers: thank you. >> smith: let me ask you to play the barometric role that you do for so many people around the country, particularly who share your world view. tell us the state of things. how are things going? we look to you to tell us and my sense is that your view of the world today is not so rosy. >> moyers: well, people ask me how are you and i say,

and by the mattson mchale foundation in support of public television. and also by mfi foundation, improving the quality of life within our community. and also by the alice kleberg reynolds foundation and viewers like you. thank you. >> i'm of evan smith. he's the self described head master of british rock. a much admired musician and producer whose credits over four plus decades include the icon in this case songs cruel to be kind, i love the sound of breaking glass and what's so funny about peace, love and understanding. thinks 13th studio album, the old magic, was recently released. he's nick lowe, this is overheard. ♪ >> smith: nick lowe, welcome. >> lowe: it's great to be here. >> smith: so nice to see you and to meet you. congratulations on the record. >> lowe: thank you very much. >> smith: it's a -- it's a wonderful record, to me as i've listened to your stuff so much over the years in that it felt that after the first time i'd listened to it that it was an old record. it felt like i'd heard these songs a million times before not in a bad way, bu

and by the mattson mchale foundation in support of public television. and also by mfi foundation, improving the quality of life within our community. and also by the alice kleberg reynolds foundation and viewers like you. thank you. he's an admired and accomplished american fiction writer whose credits include affliction and the sweet hereafter - which, not insignificantly, were made into pretty terrific movies. his twelfth novel, lost memory of skin, has just been published. he's russell bankk. thhs is overheard. >> smith: russell anks, welcome. >> banks: thank you, evan. >> smith: very nice to have you here and congratulationss3 on the book. >> banks: thank you. >> smith: although this is old hat for you at this point to ttke around a new book. you are a.you've got a lot of experience of, of -- of, promoting. >> banks: yeah. >> smith: .and talking about it and all that and i wonder if you get tired of it. >> banks::no it doesn't happen but once every three or four years anyhow so it -- it doesn't get repetitious or annthiig for me. and of course with

and by the mattson mchail foundation in support of public television. and also by mfi foundation, improving the quality of life within our community. and also by the alice clayburg reynolds foundation and viewers like you. thank you. >> i'm evan smith. he's an activist, academic and author who is one of the true icons of the american civil rights movement. a ten-term veteran of the georgia legislature, he helped found the student nonviolent coordinating committee and served as president of the southern poverty law center, and chaired the board of the naccp for more than a decade. he's julian bond. this is overheard. ♪ >> julian bond, welcome. >> thank you. >> an honor to have you here. >> my pleasure. >> let me ask you about the arc of your involvement in the civil rights movemeet, which i assume you believe continues today. >> indeed so it does. >> you go back to the late 50's when you were a student in college when you helped to found the student non-violent coordinating committee. i date your association with the movement back that far. >> that's rig

and by the mattson mchale foundation in support of public television. and also by mfi foundation, improving the quality of life within our community. and also by the alice kleberg reynolds foundation and viewers like you. thank you. >> i am evan smith. she's an emmy nominated actress and comedianne whose credits include never been kissed, the grinch who stole christmas, cat and kim and saturday night live where she spent six years as a cast member. her first book has just been published. she's molly shannon. this is overheard. ♪ >> smith: molly shannon, welcome. >> shannon: thank you. >> smith: it's really nice to have you here. >> shannon: well, it's so nice to be here. >> smith: congratulations on the book. >> shannon: thank you. >> smith: very exciting for you. >> shannon: thanks, yes, it is, it is exciting. >> smith: first book. >> shannon: mm hmm. >> smith: so not just first children's book, but first book, period. >> shannon: yeah, first book. >> smith: so why, why a book and why this book, specifically? >> shannon: well, i -- i did have in the ba

oh my you know how can i help you know maybe if they didn't give me this mattson you do have to educate and empower patients to learn how to access care quickly and at the same time you can't do that if the system is not set up to be accessible if you're educating the patient to go down a road where the bridge is out and there's a fork in the road there's three different ways to go and you know which way to go that's not going to be very helpful. our vision is to improve access to care we want to give people access to the right care at the right time in the right place and we need to incentivize financially our primary care providers our physicians this is your family medicine doctor that you go see for a cold but also the person who's most likely to diagnose you if you have cancer. and you know you have refills you know but they told me i shouldn't come back with al did prescription or why in that i mean of course they wouldn't sal it to me that's one thing we need to explain to the feature on the field. yes five years she's telling me that she gets it that's why somebody see they're g

ruins before for more on the situation in libya and its possible developments we're joined by dr mattson concisely he's a human rights activist and professor at bethlehem university thanks for joining us now the m.t.c. in libya has been praised by the countries that backed the revolution but on the ground we're seeing many libyans outraged about corruption and the well self-serving policies of the council do you think their criticism is fair. yes indeed. correct in its criticism many people were tortured. and the situation in libya is proving and part of the main reason for this is the fact that no revolution can succeed if it comes on top of foreign tanks and basically the libyan revolution has come with violence to get it from outside unlike the egyptian and the tunisian revolution. now here in right situation in libya has been drawing attention hasn't it with reports of food detentions in the torture of gadhafi supporters can the m.t.c. ever hope to build a stable state against that kind of background well the problem with then to see is that it was a concocted group of people primari

and by the mattson mchale foundation in support of public television. and also by mfi foundation, improving the quality of life within our community. and also by the alice kleberg reynolds foundation and viewers like you. thank you. >> adrienne rich burst on the literary scene in the '50s, a passionate political activist, feminist. adrienne rich, who said, "art means nothing if it simply decorates the dinner table of the power which holds it hostage. >> there's a place between two stands of trees where the grass grows uphill and the old revolutionary road breaks off into shadows near a meeting-house abandoned by the persecuted who disappeared into those shadows. i've walked there picking mushrooms at the edge of dread, but don't be fooled this isn't a russian poem, this is not somewhere else but here, our country moving closer to its own truth and dread, its own ways of making people disappear. i won't tell you where the place is, the dark mesh of the woods meeting the unmarked strip of light-- ghost-ridden crossroads, leafmold paradise: i know already

in other news this morning, senior goldman sachs partner george mattson will retire.aterpillar, starting to see a lot of the big executives at goldman sachs. given what's happening across wall street and what that means. >> you know him. >> i do. he's involved with one of the political campaigns. >> i'm assuming because he's a friend of yours -- >> no, he is, but he wasn't always which is what the interesting thing is. last time around like so many goldman people they're on the other side. >> you said given what's happening, what's happening that's forcing him to retire? >> i think you're seeing comp come down across-the-board. and so a lot of these people who grew up in the business, who stayed up until 4:00 in the morning every day are saying the about business is no longer the business it used to be. do i want to be in the business anymore and is it possible you see somebody like mattson show up at a boutique six months, a year from now possibly? i don't know. >> the other side of the story was so many were so wealthy for so long. they retired in their 40s and 50s