patti mattson. thank you much for being here. leaders and, board members of the white house historical associa, among whom are anita mcbride, who is a familiar face to this event and dr. colleen shogan, who is president nominee to become the 11th archivist of the united states. we hope you get all the way through that senate process. also, trustees of the gerald r ford presidential foundation, in addition to susan, who are here, include tina freese, decker hooker and fred keller, the director of the ford presidential library and museum. brooke, brooke clements is with us also and west michigan's political reporter, rick albin with us. let's give all of these distinguished guests a hand. i also want to thank the many many generous donors, the sponsors who made this luncheon possible again. please hold your applause. our premier sponsor once again, fifth third bank. our table sponsors the steve and amy van andel foundation, blue cross blue shield, blue care network of, michigan, and the secchia family foundation and are the princip

mattson: there is an indigenous anger and frustration that drove a lot of punk on and got a lot of youngttson: punk was, i think, a kind of wide umbrella, and that wider scene included people who werere a little e bit momore complexex in their musical performance style. people aren't gonna buy something that you call punk. they might buy it if you call it new wave. man: you hear r a lot of t that punknk rock thesese days. can we have your thoughts on that? i think it's better just to call it new wave, really. i think by defining it as punk, you're automatically putting a boundary around what's possible. and i think bands like talking heads are excellent. connelly: the talking heads was the ultimate college band and they did sophisticated, spiky music that reflected who they were. and it particularly reflected the fascinating individual ththat david b byrne woululd emerge t to become. i thought i'd write a song about urban guerillas from the point of view of their daily lives, instead of from the point of view of their politics. ♪ heard of a van that's loaded with weapons ♪ ♪ packed up an