and by the mattson mchale foundation n support of public television. and also by mfi foundation, improving the quality of life within our community. and also by the alice kleberg reynolds foundation and viewers like you. thank you. she's a veteran and mmch loved new yorker magazine wriier whose credits include the or card s.s.i., saturday night, the bull fighter checks her makeup and the children's book lazy little lowfers. her latest book and it is so incredibly good, is rin-tin-tin, the life and the legend. she's susan orlean. this is overheard. >> smmth: susan, so nice to see you. >> orlean: it's a pleasure to be here. >> smith: thank you for being back. >> orlean: couldn't be happier to be here. >> smith: good. now, i want to talk about rin-tin-tin, but i want to talk about animals first, because before we talk about rin-tin-tin, let us establish you are an animal person. >> orlean: i guess i am. >> smith: yeah. >> orlean: i... i... >> smith: your current holdings include... >> orlean: thirteen black angus cattle. >> mith: yeah. >> orlean: a dog, t

and by the mattson mchale foundation in support of public television. and also by mfi foundation, improving the quality of life within our community. and also by the alice kleberg reynolds foundation and viewers like you. thank you. >> smith: i'm evan smith. he's an actor, author and humorist best known for his regular contributions to the daily show and his star turn on those mac vs. pc commercials. his most recent book, that is all, has just been published. he's john hodgman. this is overheard. ♪ >> smith: john hodgman, welcome. >> hodgman: thank you very much. >> smith: nice to have you here. >> hodgman: it's nice to be here. >> smith: now, let me ask you about this book and its place in this trilogy of books that together represent complete world knowledge. >> hodgman: yes, that's correct. >> smith: this is number three. >> hodgman: it comes at the end. >> smith: it comes at the end. the last one... >> hodgman: ...that's its place. >> smith: more information than you require. >> hodgman: is this book shelving? [ laughter ] >> smith: this is a book s

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