joining us from boston is maura healey, thank you for giving your time today. t of all, as it stands in its second iteration, why is the new executive order still defected? maura: it is still discriminatory, it is a muslim ban. and more than being unconstitutional, what this also is is something that is causing a tremendous amount of uncertainty and creating real harm for businesses, research institutions, colleges and universities, and for major tech companies across the land. that is one of the reasons why when we filed suit and we renewed our lawsuit earlier this week, joining with hawaii and washington state and others, we were standing alongside us, the leaders from tech community and business, saying that is wrong. caroline: you mentioned, you say it is still discriminatory, but a lot of that thesis is based on the past statements from the election campaign, made by donald trump. how do you distinguish about what was said in the past and the current writing in the executive order? maura: he still has created a serious issue and denying visas and creating u