. >> and in the beginning maureen dowd had sympathy and then called her things such as she was too tubby if high school to be inned "in" crowd and she won a pulitzer prize for all of this reporting on turning on the woman who allegedly could be seen as the victim. >> you could call it a war on women. >> a war on women! >> this is why it continues to get coverage. >> it was open season on monica lewinsky and the fact is people then followed the story because it had everything, sex, politics, abuse of power, lying to the granted jury, and the fact that we are now engaging in it again. but one thing people forget the public has been carpet bombed with this, and turns against the media and felt that it was bill clinton's personal life and his popularity rating stayed up. >> and hillary clinton became a senator. >> and secretary of state. >> message me on twitter and we will read some of those later. some hillary clinton allies say the press might deter her from running in 2016. >> james carville on the liberal meeting turning on president >>> were you to run for president in 2016, would you

to bring up tyler clemente's name in all this. >> isn't maureen dowd doing the same? isn't maureen dowd using the tragedy of the last 16 years and the way monica lewinsky was dragged through the mud to pen an article that ignites controversy, so she gets a lot of people to read her article? she's doing the same thing. i think she's being completely disingenuous for writing what she wrote. it angers me when women do that. when women in power take a now if she believes that, so be it. as far as i'm concerned, monica lewinsky has a masters in psychology. she's written this article. she's facing her past and has no idea what will come from it, but i think a lot of good will. >> she's being used politically. put it up there so i can read it. "lewinsky, hillary blamed the woman." hillary clinton should have blamed her husband about that. matt drudge isn't writing that headline because he cares two bits about monica lewinsky. >> what matt drudge wants is he makes his money based on how many people click and that's what people do on his site. that's why he writes the headline

what really got me going, i mean, really got me going, is when maureen dowd wrote, the tragedy of theld committed suicide after his roommate secretly screened his liaison with another man over the web is what got her to decide to take her humiliation and try to find purpose. who the hell would actually understand what tyler cla meanty was going through? monica lewinsky. she was betrayed by a friend just like tyler was. when her secret conversations with a friend were turned over because they turned out to be tape. >> let's remind everybody, look, if you don't know the nitty-grit nitty-gritty, the facts matter in this story, monica lewinsky never breathed a word of this. she confineded in her friend linda tripp. who recorded it and released it for the world to hear. she kept quiet afterward. she was in love with that man. if you read that, she was a 21-year-old love struck kid who got sent under the bus. here we are again, throwing her under the bus again. >> article after article written by women. ladies, back off. back off a sister. >> here's my theory. i'm going to tell you right no

i think that's the closest we're ever going to get to empathy for sympathy from maureen dowd.bill clinton is untarnished. his popularity rating is an all-time high. she remains kryptonite. >> the reasons coming out for the story are good once. i hope some people pay attention to that. the idea there are people who are ashamed on the internet in this very public way and they have human reactions to them. teen suicide say terrible problem in this country. she was almost a teenager when this happened to her. and she was sparked to do this after a teen suicide. so i don't want to lose that part of the conversation. i guess i want to say for liberals who tend to defend the clintons there was some justification that there is a kind of third front in this war. you don't have to choose sides between the conservative interpretation and the liberal interpretation. you could say this is a story about a woman who did something very foolish and kind of got swept away by history. and you can also say that bill clinton did something foolish and human. we don't have to find a particular polit

>> no, i just didn't finally read all the way through maureen dowd. she doesn't go after monica lewinsky. her point is, we're going back again, we don't want to hear about this. >> actually, her point is my point. >> she has a couple points of criticism, she said the real bullies are the clintons and their attack dog. she has criticism of monica lewinsky and said she would like to seat circus move through. >> by the way, i was not talking about maureen at all. al hunt and maureen makes a point that i'm making here. you went through it as well, mark was there, al, for those of us who went through it in the 1990s, oh, we don't want do go through it again. it was a miserable, miserable time. when this woman is attacked the way she is in the papers, i don't get it, i don't get it now. >> nobody ever accused maureen dowd of being a clinton -- >> no. >> and this is hillary clinton, so for anyone who thinks is this going to hurt her, i hope you're wrong ten times over. >> it has nothing to do with hillary. >> this is a completely messed up situation even mor

but i'm going to end up quoting maureen dowd of "the new york times." now, i have to confess, this for me is a new start. she said, "especially now that we have this scary world war iii vibe with the russians, we expect the president, especially one who ran as babe ruth, to hit home runs." now, as you know, he was quoted i think in manila as saying, well, he gets occasional singles. >> right. >> don't you think that standing up to putin requires babe ruth more than a guy hitting singles? isn't this really the big leagues? >> well, i think it's the big leagues. i think president obama is used to the big leagues and i think that his leadership on ukraine has been strong. the europeans now are stepping up to the plate and clearly it's going to take all of us. it's the sanctions from the united states, but it is also the sanctions -- >> i have to ask, if this has been strong -- >> yes. >> -- what would weakness look like? >> i think weakness would look like doing nothing. i think what the president has done has been strong and i think he's showing the leade

maureen dowd wrote lewinsky's bullies were also the clinton's and their vicious attack dog who is worked woman into a scapegoat. the political tone in washington at the time. we couldn't get anyone to talk to us. brian todd, cnn, washington. >>> one of the oldest skeletons unearthed in america. the skeleton is thought to belong to the first group of humans to settle in america. i have always said it, we are more connected than you think. thanks for connecting with me. for those of you in the u.s., "new day" is next. enjoy your weekend. america's newest real estate brand is all ready the brand of the year. berkshire hathaway home services. good to know. >>> there were arrests in escondido and there was also an arrest in oceanside. >> charges filed. one of the people arrested for suspected arson in the california wildfires has now been charged. the investigation, the homes lost and the fire battle, ahead. >>> so, today, by some measures, our schools are as segregated as they were when dr. king gave his final speech. >> on the 60th anniversary of brown versus board of education, first

a columnist maureen dowd wrote lewinski's bullies were the clintons and vicious attack dogs working tol so coldly called her into the skapgoat. we reached out to clinton loyalists from the white house years to talk about lewinski and just about the political tone in washington at that time. we couldn't get them to speak to us. brian todd, cnn, washington. >>> now with all the talk about hillary clinton possibly running for president, a heavyweight is urging caution. frederi fredericka whitfield talked with our candy crowley. >> hillary clinton is the frontrunner of potential democratic candidates for president but could they be overconfident? candy crowley is our chief political correspondent. hillary clinton, sure looks like a candidate. with her book tour, her speaking engagements and all the polls saying she would lock up the democratic nomination but one democrat that you actually had on your show today, candy, says he's a little concerned, talking about massachusetts governor duval patrick. what is he so worried about? >> it is interesting and not just his worry but asked him abou

. >> maureen dowd written -- obama does i will say it it crudely. . >> manhood is getting out of hand. manhood, mom jeans and the way he gets off of airplanes. >> maureen, you are two years too late. this is the stuff you should have ferreted out in 2007 and 2008. it's no big deal to figure this out six years in to this mess. >> not only on the right but the left too. rick klein, jim garety and bob cusack. rick, i think the manhood stuff, i think that's mean, it's critical. i don't like that one. >> it's too much. can you climb into someone's head around that and say what it means on the world stapling. do i think there is a broader issue. you mentioned president's supporters new poll out by harvard university just this week looks at millennials people in their 20's. broad disillusionment with broad some measures more disillusionment since any time since 2011. obama era. real phenomena we see inside of the party. inside places that would be the president's base and frustrations coming forward. >> all male panel to assess the manhood issue of the admi

. >> maureen dowd, "new york times" columnist, wrote last week, her bullies were also the clintons anddogs who worked so hard to turn that, quote, woman, as bill called her, into the scapegoat. we called a lot of those former clinton officials to see if they would talk and a lot of them don't want to talk. they flat out told me, i just don't want to talk now. it's interesting. >> thanks, brian, for that. you're working the story. >>> politics with a western twist. a cowboy, a biker, two other guys. they all want to be the governor of idaho. you're going to want to see what this debate resulted in. ugh. heartburn. did someone say burn? try alka seltzer reliefchews. they work just as fast and are proven to taste better than tums smoothies assorted fruit. mmm. amazing. yeah, i get that a lot. alka seltzer heartburn reliefchews. enjoy the relief. how did i know? well, i didn't really. see, i figured low testosterone would decrease my sex drive... but when i started losing energy and became moody... that's when i had an honest conversation with my doctor. we discussed all the symptoms... th

now she wants to have a drink with maureen dowd who makes so much fun of here.. >> it's not about her, it's about him and the clinton machine which sought out initially when they didn't know which way she was going to turn, initially, you remember it as well as i did, they were trying to sideline her and dispose of her early on in the scandal. i remember it very well. >> the presidency was at stake, but i think for her -- >> and hillary's future was at stake as well. i think they were thinking that far ahead. >> i think republicans can go overboard in relitigating this, it's price into the hillary stock. in raising her head, she's exposed herself to more media ridicule. my twitter feed is ex ploting. she's going to learn what it's like in the age of social media. >> the person you ridiculed is not the 21 to 22-year-old intern and the ridiculing of her, that's really old news, and for, you know, all the men watching this, i just think, look, the fact is this occurred. she said it was consensual but power differentials in the workplace, feminists used to believe t

maureen dowd is unloading on lewinsky, writing, quote, monica is in danger of exploiting her exploitationpost" writes monica lewinsky should shut up and go away. "outfront" tonight, radio host stephanie miller, john avlon and daily beast editor at large lloyd grove who covered the lewinsky scandal. all right. thanks to all of you for being with us. stephanie, the lewinsky bashing is coming from, well, i mean what we just quoted, female columnists. why are they treating her like the villain? >> i know. there is nowhere you can go with this story when you say why did she open her mouth again there is nothing you can say that doesn't sound dirty. and she has become this natural punch line. but i think the most important thing she said, erin, is this was a consensual adult thing. sorry, rand paul, and she says i regret it. i made a mistake. i think the stretch she made was in comparing to it tyler clemente who didn't do anything wrong. all he did is be gay and get taped without his consent. i understand her humiliation and her pain, but she did admit she did something wrong. she knew she was

columnist maureen dowd wrote in "the new york times" lewinsky's, quote, bullies were the clintons andnsky into a scapegoat. we reached out to clinton loyalists from the white house years, excuse me, to talk about lewinsky and the political tone in washington at that time. we couldn't get any of them to speak to us, wolf. it was surprising or maybe not so surprising how many of those folks clammed up over this. >> thunderous silence. they have something to do with 2016, right? >> absolutely, it does. political analysts are saying, you know, with hilly possibly poised to run in 2016, no one in their camp is going to want to speak now about the lewinsky era. that could be poisonous. once a clinton loyalist, always a clinton loyalist. we find the people in that circle don't want to be cut out of it. you speak about lewinsky, you'll probably be cut out of it. >> david letterman was getting reflective at the end of his job over there at cbs. he's beginning to think, well, maybe i went too far. >> right. >> telling some of those jokes. >> that's right. >> thanks very much. >>> breaking news.

it was written by maureen dowd, and it was a straight piece.t a column, it was we got an advance copy of in this book, and this is what it says. well, the fact that "the new york times" had beatified kitty kelley by putting this book on the front page caused their journalists to go crazy. by that i mean they a really got upset. and there was a big staff meeting, and there was a big hullabaloo. and later harrison call lis bury -- sallies bury who was an icon at "the new york times," foreign correspondent, he said that the outrage is that it took kitty kitty kelley to put these things in print instead of the media that covered the reagan administration. and i always thought it is better to be an outsider looking in you're looking to write the truth. now, that's all find and well and sounds very righteous, you also pay a price. >> host: this is from joe in los angeles. i wanted to know which biographers or biographies you admire. also i believe in your biography on sinatra you were the first to find that frank sinatra's mother was arrested for pra

maureen dowd wrote in her column and critically about this notion of people handing off batons.ary clinton who for all we know at this table is about to be the next president of the united states. there is a sense with obama being very, not obsessed with, but concerned with maybe even obsessed with the limits of the presidency as he sees it. >> well, look -- >> and well it should be. >> they don't know how to run congress. they don't know how to deal with congress. >> what's that? >> they have no clue on how to deal with congress. i've talked to folks in there and they don't know. they can't envision -- i mean, mark is right. i think they have a theory of a case, they just don't know how to implement it. they don't know how to put it through. they have no idea how they're going to get anything done in congress other than their whole theory this year is, well, if democrats hold the senate, maybe there's a whole bunch of stuff we can jam in the lame duck. and there is a six-week period they'll get immigration, all these things. that's about all the. that seems to be the totality o