i saw the maureen dowd piece on you, did you like it?, yes, charming piece. >> it opened my eyes to things about your life that i didn't know, so i was honored to have you on the program. i promised you that if you -- so first of all, yeah, thank you, so explain why you have no shoes on. >> this is the fourth time in my whole life that i've worn a jacket. they have a dress code here. i said, i'll wear the jacket if i don't have to wear shoes. that was my bargain. >> do you typically walk around barefoot? >> i like walking around barefoot if i can, we have a nice climate here. >> i know you don't normally wear a jacket, for me you did, i thank you. will you be more comfortable if you take it off? >> my only problem is you're wearing shoes. >> would you be more comfortable if i took them off? >> i would be more comfortable. >> it would be a problem if you ask for more than that. >> hey, listen. we've got to think about those ratings, man. >> take off my shoes, take off my socks. my mama is having a heart attack in indiana right now. >> oh,