the superintendent of public instruction, democrat maurice green won by 121,000 votes and he got 2.8es and you go down and get to the presidential race, donald trump only got slightly more than maurice green. he got 2.87 million votes and kamala harris got just slightly under maurice green, 2.688 million votes and that sounds crazy to people, but it actually is a phenomenon that people will go in and say oh, my, it is to make sure that the guy who called himself a black nazi is not my governor. your thoughts? >> i think that's right. people go into the voting booth and vote for the people they specifically care about, you know. sometimes it's the senate race and sometimes it's the gubernatorial race and sometimes it is the top of the ticket and just vote for donald trump, for example. i keyed in on something you said which was really important to me and something that i've been being been thinking about for a very long time in terms of shifting for obama. when i started working for the party some years ago through 2016, you, it occurred to me subsequent to that that, you know, barack