but then comes drew madison and maury harris with an antikeynesian idea.rary disposable income changes. so the bottom line there, what those guys are saying, if it wasn't permanent, it probably didn't become part of spending. so you won't have a big impact. so far, the nonkeynesians have been right. and i put steven stanley in that score right there. the other guys are saying what is the word from -- was it eliza? it's whether or not the consumer rolls over with confidence. >> hmm. >> joe? >> no -- rick, are you -- i don't know, rick. do i need to ask you a question to get you started? or do you have -- you've never been to russia, have you? >> no. no, no. closest i've been to russia washes up on our shores here. >> you're talking about steve? >> no, i'm talking about general sentiment. general sentiment. you know, put a couple of leaders in key ivory towers and they'll take care of everything. i guess that's as close to russia as we get. i don't know. don't you remember when we were in grade school, joe, don't you remember, even back then in the '60s, '70