>> i was hoping that anthony hopkins would win, but it did surprise me that maury povich won. >> the big moment, sonic the hedgehog getting up to accept his best picture award, calling for a moment of silence for all the lives lost to covid. did that moment to you have the emotional impact that sonic was going for? >> not really, because i think it's a bit hard to get that same effect with a cartoon than an animated picture. i think the idea was there, but i think it was difficult to come across. >> cynthia, we're talking about the oscars. you were watching last night? >> yes. >> glenn close got up during her acceptance speech and thanked satan. what was your reaction when she did that? >> it's not a time -- there wasn't a place for it. people have their own beliefs. and, you know, it's what they feel. but this venue wasn't the place for that. >> not the place for satan? >> not the place to be speaking or thanking satan, you know. i'm not going to -- i'm totally against satan, i'm totally against everything that he stands for. >> oh. >> but people have their own beliefs on whatever i