reactions of the coronavirus we're joined live now by journalist and commentator chadwick moore and max abrams assistant professor of public policy at northeastern university in boston now chad wreck if we can go ahead and start with you if we focus in on the u.s. something that we've been hearing quite a bit is a lot of criticism of donald trump and his reaction people calling it slow saying that he was trying to downplay it and if we look back at some of the things he said he you know he said that in april it looks like it will get warmer and it will go away miraculously saying it's going to disappear like a miracle one day he also said that as well why do you think he was making those sort of commons. well even his team you know and dr policy at the national institutes of health even said look these pandemics of the last time we had was 10 years ago 11 years ago and they do take this natural curve and they do you know they do climb they plateau they drop and it usually coincides with weather when it gets warmer out these viruses don't like e. they don't like humidity i don't think the presi

we discuss the situation with journalist and commentator chadwick moore and max abrams assistant professor of public policy at northeastern university in the u.s. . joel crises tend to strengthen the hand of the executive we're seeing a tremendous increase right now in the federal government power in the united states out there isn't it and there's even some talk of you know about martial law curfews i think it's terrifying i think it's really disturbing and it's you know there are some constitutional scholars out better that debate whether how constitutional is i think it's it's shocking how easily americans will give up their liberty that said the u.s. is a democracy and china is an authoritarian country but who can roll in terms of the continuum between democracy and limited government for terry doesn't the u.s. government is moving more in the direction of china while still trying to maintain some of our time credit norms max is absolutely correct that it we're seeing just how swiftly the state can expand out how it can come in and become more authoritarian and you know in new york cit

him of failing to act in time we discuss this with journalist and commentator chadwick war and max abrams who's an assistant professor of public policy at northeastern university in boston. i think that there has been a real evolution in terms of the quality of donald trump's response to joe coronavirus initially it is obsolete true that he tried to downplay it he said at one point you know that it was a hoax he said more recently that the administration how the virus or control of any no longer speaks that well i don't think the president was making a false statement or it was just talking out of thin air what he said that he really isn't speaking to advisors there's an insane amount of panic out there being driven by the media and meanwhile when you listen to the experts they're very calm they're not freaking out and they give it pretty simple basic instructions to people i agree with my fellow k.o.'s that he is supported by a strong team medical and otherwise scientific professionals he gives very very long press conferences so sometimes he deviates from the script and when he does tha