there was less money -- >> neil: when max bachus talks about the fact he is frustrated.hunt talking about republicans. he talked about this thing is more problematic than we knew. >> in doubt that -- no doubt, neil, this is a very complex piece of legislation dealing with 18 parts of our economy. so it's tough. i'm not sure i agree with max in his characterization of it, but having said that, there's no doubt it's complex, and one of the problems has been, it was adopted on the theory that would we cooperate in implement indication,. neil: where do you see everything going? we got -- i'm with you. i don't necessarily buy one day or a couple of days ominous warning for everyone but obviously markets are rattled, folks are rattled. what do you say to calm them down? >> let me tell you, first of all, i reiterate, the reason well-person -- well-person ben bernanke said what he says, the economy is do well. >> neil: so everybody take a chill pill. >> chill out. secondly i would say to my republican and democratic colleagues, if we got together and passed a budget, passed appr

the congress on the senate side, we know that tax reform is moving forward on the house side and max bachusn the senate. it's just a question of whether or not they get any momentum from actually a slowing economy to get them really moving hard. >> i would love to see it. >> and this is the low-hanging fruit of the u.s. economy. >> i would love to see it and unfortunately, i don't believe a word of it. i think dave camp wants tax reform. i think max bachus wants tax reform and every member of this member wants tax reform and michelle caruso-cabrera wrote a book about tax reform, and i just don't believe it. >> michelle, this is a weird thing. if our economy is softening and that's another reason bernanke shouldn't have laid out a scale. >> if our economy's softening, do you think the fed will back off and are we going to go back to that game again and he left the door open for that and it will be data dependent and if things don't go well he has the option of stepping back in and i think what people want to -- and even the game has changed. first the goalpost was a time period and then it w

in admitting whatting wrong about it and i'm wondering when you see the likes of harry reid and max bachus and other senators who were big champions of the program, admit there are problems. whether that goes far enough. >> and now look at things like benghazi. still don't know what happened. snowden, is he a detroityear or hero? how can the president of the united states allow headlines to go on like that and the american people nobody what he is. it confused people and the american people need leadership. >> neil: grant, thank you very minute. a very good superperspective on this, barack obama's approval numbers dropping eight points. larry said that is a clear sign the scandals are taking a toll. what do you make of what is happening here and do these declining numbers indicate frustration with the president on how he i handling these scandals. >> he has a case of the second term blahs. superman never has the blahs, but -- >> neil: he does. he is always troubled by -- and he is a superhero, and i always feel like saying, you're a superhero. but i digress. go ahead. >> you really digress

max's travel to capitol hill, again, to speak with members of congress such as congressman bachus and congresswoman pelosi to speak now for kids advocacy family day. and max joins us now along with his mother jennifer from capitol hill. good to see you both. how are you? >> hi, we're great. thank you, sanjay. >> max, how are you? >> i'm feeling great. i'm feeling better than i've ever felt before, so if you thought i had energy last time you saw me, look at me now. >> i was just going to say you not only seem like you have more energy, you suddenly seem like a mature young man there. you just have that sort of voice of confidence. it's good to hear your voice, max, and good to see you as well, jennifer. >> thank you. >> look, we've talked about it a little over the years, jennifer, you came to capitol hill over two years ago with the children hospital association. i wonder how it's going, have you seen any changes specifically with this issue of tri trying to provide that equal care across the board for kids? >> everywhere we go, we were on both sides of the aisle on the house and the