it's a pleasure to introduce max baucus introduce max baucus to the foreign relations committee. max is a legend in montana. has committed and passionate thought you 29. that is why montana's trusting him to present that great state for nearly 40 years. otherwise pay later the senate finance committee, max and his issues affecting our relationship with china better than anyone. max's anti-china eight times. he's led trade in agriculture missions there. he knows the chinese leadership. chairman of the finance committee, max also no right now. aeschylus serve them well as they represent her interests are second-leading trade partner. maxis commitment to economic opportunity is paid off for montanans and americans for literally decades. as ambassador, he will have the opportunity to take his passion, his work ethic and knowledge to the next level. if max is confirmed as the next ambassador to china, he legitimate element in an overseas, our current ambassador to russia, michael mcfaul also hails from the big sky state. it is really the footsteps of another montana legend that max is

>> why is max baucus doing this?ho are going to have to go through the reelection process right with him on this? >> well, sadly, you have people in both parties, including the democrats who have bought into this export framework. and it's true. for certain exporters, some of them are agricultural, some of them could be high-tech or entertainment exporters, you can see an increase in exporting. in exports from these deals. but the increase in importing and the effect on depressing wages announced the tradeable service sector too including call center jobs and the gutting of the environmental standards. we're just exporting pollution and the destruction of the climate. so that's what is at stake here. >> how do you stop fast track? i mean, stopping the trade deal may be a bridge too far. but getting amendments and getting discussion, getting debate. >> right. >> will really bring forth i think public pressure. but how do you stop the fast track? >> the biggest coalition we have built to date on trade, it's growing eve

so of course max baucus, he's controlling things. he's our new darrell issa. supporters of the p temperature said the deal would make it easier for businesses to export goods. >> and today our international sales are growing in many countries. however, the playing field for trade isn't always level. while our market is generally open, u.s. exports face foreign terrorists that often soar into double digits as well as a thicket of nontariff barriers. now, as you've heard, i'm not from washington, but as we've already heard today, tpa will require congress and the white house to work together on trade agreements. well, that doesn't sound like a radical notion to me. and those trade agreements will tear down the foreign barriers that shut out products made by companies like mine. >> here we go again with only half a story. tariffs. if we're just as equal as some other country in this trade agreement, why should there be any tariffs whatsoever? the bottom line is it's about wages and there has to be a level of protectionism in this deal for american workers where w

in montana, democratic senator max baucus he'll be ambassador to china.blicans think that one is in the bag that. would get them to 46. then what happens there? arkansas. senator pryor very vulnerable, a democrat. he won't welcome president obama. republicans think that's a great opportunity. they think in alaska, mark begich just said on cnn a short time ago, no thanks, mr. president, i don't need your help because you're wrong on so many issues. republicans think they have a good chance on that one. 48. then you look at the map from here, north carolina, that's a state kay hagen her first re-election, tough race here. i won't switch it but we'll leave that one. louisiana another one, a republican opportunity. they think they could have chances in michigan and iowa where you have retiring democratic senators. so the map a tough one. a tough one. also perhaps new hampshire. a tough one. but republicans do think they have a chance to get to 50. so let's continue our conversation with audie cornish of npr, jonathan martin of the "new york times," peter thha

max baucus, in my opinion as i see it is no democrat.s no friend to the middle class. they talk about exports. what about the imports? it's not good. as senate finance committee chairman, baucus was the major obstacle to incorporating a public option into the affordable care act. and we know that story. laurie wallog joins us tonight. she joins us this evening. laurie, good to have you with us. i appreciate your time. is senator baucus only pushing for fast track authority to cement his relationship with china? is there a personal gain here? >> well, baucus, unfortunately, has been a big fan of fast track and the nafta-streile trade killing agreements that fast track has enabled. i think he is probably really excited about being the ambassador to china because now he can go visit all the u.s. jobs that his past trade votes have offshored to china. i hope it breaks his heart that it's going to be a bunch of young women working for $1 an hour for 18 hours a day for doing the jobs that men and women with union jobs and middle class lifestyl

fast track to destruction right now a group of senators and congressman led by montana senator max baucus utah senator orrin hatch and michigan representative dave camp are rallying support for a bill they're calling the wiped. as rational trade priorities act of twenty fourteen if passed it would give president obama fast track authority on trade deals make the approval of the trans-pacific partnership free trade deal many people say is worse than nafta all the more likely joining me now for more on this is oregon congressman peter de fazio congressman de fazio welcome back thanks for the opportunity as usual so what do we what do people need to know about fast track first of all i mean what actually even before i get to there this piece of legislation dropped on thursday as i recall last week it's correct it which was the day that all this. governor christie starts blowing up i think most americans don't even realize that fast track has been you know drop theirs and if they do they don't they're not sure what it is right. what is it well fast track. a way to essentially railroad a bad t

he is someone who is more liberal than max baucus for sure. he has clashes with other democrats.ometimes over style. >> he is a liberal, but he has worked over the dash across the aisle. we will see. thank you to both of you. when we return, margaret carlson debates 2014. ♪ >> welcome back. we will get to margaret carlson in a moment. but first, phil mattingly talks about an issue that will not go away. the nsa mess. he had a lot of reading to do in hawaii. the 300 page report from his nsa advisory committee. what will you do? -- he do? >> changes are coming. if it were not for edward snowden, this conversation would not be happening. we know that the president took the form with them hawaii. he will make a speech regarding the intelligence obstruction in the u.s. sometime next week he is expected to make changes. >> both sides are great critics. >> they align together on this. they have to make changes. they continue to protect their country in their view, but also address the uproar that is going on in congress. if obama does not act, capitol hill will. he needs to do something

negotiations house ways and means committee chairman dave camp and senate finance committee chairman max baucus and ranking member or and hatch introduced the bipartisan congressional priority act yesterday congress members released a statement saying the bill establishes twenty first century congressional negotiation objectives and rules for the administration to follow when engaged and trade talks the bill if passed into law would apply to the twelve nation trans-pacific partnership which includes the u.s. the end of the eleven other highlighted nations along the pacific rim critics of the trade deal have expressed concerns with transparency surrounding the negotiations and proposed corporate policies the bill includes a fast track per vision which would limit congressional input on the t p p calling for a straight up or down vote with no room for amendments and limited florida bait to discuss the trade deal and the process of fast tracking more i'm joined by lori wallach director at public citizen's global trade watch well i think for joining my pleasure so here is the bill that was introduc

on thursday afternoon house ways and means chairman dave camp senate finance committee chairman max baucus and senator orrin hatch introduced the bipartisan congressional trade priorities act of twenty fourteen the bill would grant the white house fast track authority some time soon as the trade promotion authority to ratify trade deals so we don't know who wrote this there's some corporate lobbyist who wrote this and here we have the situation where both democrats and republicans despite all their shrieking pretending they're on opposite sides here they are ready to pass a secret deal giving all sorts of huge authority to the executive branch to the president to ratify trade deals that the congress doesn't only have an up or down vote so they can only vote yes or no to ratify the trade deals right so this is to follow along here the latest chapter in the history of leveraged buyouts as we were describing it in this in this show so far in other words you start off with these huge leveraged deals in america like r.j. are to biscoe or some of the more famous huge deals and the players are an

moussaoui in the means committee chairman dpm and senate finance committee chairman max baucus the drinking member orrin hatch to introduce the bipartisan congressional a tree priority act yesterday. congress members released a statement saying the panel established his twenty first century congressional negotiations had jack and enrolled for the administration to follow when the gate entry hawks the bill if passed into law would apply to the twelve nation transfers that the partnership which includes the us and eleven other highlight of the nation along the pacific brands critics of the trade deal had expressed concerns with transparency surrounding the negotiations and proposed corporate policies. the bill includes a fast track provision which would limit congressional input on the tee pee pee going for a straight up or down vote with no room for a minute and laminate floor debate. it is god's country deal and the process of fast acting more and joined by two warring twilight director of citizen's global trade watch leggings for joining the nation. so here's the detail that was induced ye

two other democrats involved in crafting the affordable care a act, commerce and george miller, max baucusho warned obamacare was a train wreck have also announced their retirents. a new poll shows uninsured americans increasingly themselves dislike the law. according to the kaiser foundation, 30% of the uninsured now say they have an unfavorable view of obamacare. just 24% of those unsured say they like it. and as you know, the list is long, leaders in major labor unions who wrote a letter to senate majority leader harry reid and house minority leader nancy pelosi to say revelatory changes to obamacare do nothing to help their workers suffering under obamacare. letter reads in part it would be sad irony if the signatu legislative accomplishment of administration committed to income inequality cut living standards to middle income and low-wage workers. georgia governor today i apologize for states lack of preparedness after a rare ice storm paralyzed traffic in atlanta. resulting in it may commute for thousands and thousands of drivers. >> we will be much more cautious and much more aggres

montana where max baucus plans to step down and become u.s.r to china, the president's approval rating just 33%. alaska, mark begich seeking a second term with approval rating just a pinch higher. congressman tom cotton, the president's approval rating 34.9%. fox news digital politics editor and host of power play. when you break down the numbers like that, chris, it looks like dicey road ahead for dems. >> certainly we've said this before, gretchen, it looks very favorable for the republican party to regain control of the united states senate, but we did say that in 2012 and certainly a lot of people thought it happened in 2010. what looks to be different, so many seats in red territory, like you described, that are traditionally republican on the federal level, or at least had become republican states on the federal level, tough places to hold. not surprising you're seeing that spate of retirements you listed through at the top as democrats didn't want to face tough re-election fights. it's all because of barack obama. >> so the interesting

the trade promotion authority bill was presented by max baucus of montana who is about to leave the senates should not give into this no matter how badly president obama says he wants it. if any democrat is going to fall for this, this theory that it's going to be better for the economy, they're really not a true supporter of the middle class or manufacturing and labor in this country. we should hold them accountable. james hoffa, president of the international brotherhood of the teamsters joins us tonight. mr. hoffa, good to have you with us. the pressure is mounting. we're getting into the 11th hour. here the president has got his folks up on capitol hill, pushing lawmakers. how is this going to unfold? or is labor and wage earners and some congressional members going to be able to stop this? >> well, fast track is the wrong track for america. and right now we're organizing action days. we're getting very active with regard to how do we stop this. we're going to have demonstrations at congressional offices around the country. we're going to be sending e-mails. we're going to be calling p

take senator max baucus of montana, nominee for u.s. senator, i am no real expert on china. >> an aide for the senator says he was just being humble, because that is the montana way. i guess that makes sense, but i'm not real expert on montana, so what do i know? surely if you're going to be an ambassador to a country, you've traveled there at some point, sfligt >> have you been to norway? >> i have not. >> i guess the guy who is going to be the ambassador to norway hasn't been there. george sunis is his name. he's been nominated for the ambassadorship to norway versus senator john mccain, ambassador of sass. >> what do you think the appeal of the progress party was? >> norway has been quick to denounce them. >> the government has denounced them? they're part of the coalition, the government. >> i stand corrected and would like to leave my answer at it's a very open society. >> i stand corrected. look, not many businessmen would be able to discuss the political makeup of norway's government, that's true. but they're not trying to be amb

take senator max baucus of montana, nominee for u.s. real expert on china. >> no real expert on china. an aide for the senator says he was just being humble because that is the montana way. i guess that makes sense. to be honest, i'm no real expert on montana. so what do i know? surely, though, if you're going to be an ambassador to a country you'd travel there at some point, right? >> have you been to norway? >> i have not. >> the guy who's going to be the ambassador to norway hasn't been there. george sunes is his name. he's a businessman, been nominated for the ambassadorship to norway versus senator john mccain, ambassador of sass. it goss pretty esoteric. >> norway has been very quick to denounce them. >> the government has denounced them? are they part of the coalition of the government? >> i stand corrected. i would like to leave my answer, it's a very very open society. >> i stand corrected. look, not many businessmen would be able to intelligently discuss the political makeup of norway's government. that's true. but they're not

senators max baucus and orrin hatch and congressman dave camp introduced the bipartisan congressional trade priorities act of twenty to fourteen sounds fancy but basically this is the set up the fast track for t p p thoughts on that. you know that's exactly what it is what's been happening is that finally the american public by way of programs like yours tom i want to tell you that by way of programs like yours by way of of the citizens media the broad citizens media on the internet and all different sorts of citizens media the word has gotten out that this is a president that has been trying to hustle the american public by trying to push this thing through now he sees feeling he right now he's feeling major heat so what he says to his pal baucus and what he says to orrin hatch that have already you know you've got baucus right by the side of of obama they're saying look let us take the heat let us go ahead and go forward with this thing let us change the nature of the fast track and stay in take some of this attention off of you this is a this is not a good move people who are looki

universal health care was never given a seat by senator max baucus of the senate finance committee.t now and the things that are actually happening yesterday and today as we move into the full implementation of obamacare, no, it's not a dirty little secret and not awful and i take issue with what mr. moore was writing about in the "new york times." what's awful is the right-wing republican governors denying their own citizens a chance to get health care. that's the awful part of it all. zerlina maxwell and ruth connor, thank you for being with us. >>> up next, the new progressive mayor of new york city takes a beating for his message on income and equality. and this time, the attack is not from the usual suspects. before you settle for another ordinary mattress, isn't it time you discovered the sleep number bed? because only the sleep number bed offers dual air technology that lets two people find the perfect balance of comfort and support for their bodies. their sleep number setting. ok, right there. and only the sleep number bed is clinically proven to relieve back pain and improv

montana now held by max baucus, he's retiring. again, they think they get that one.you're looking at other seats here. arc, an, pryor. the republicans think they get this. this will be a tough race. they think also they can get come up here to alaska. they think this one's gone. they think louisiana is a very good chance for the republicans there. democrats will disagree with those calls. that gets to you 49. retiring democrats in iowa, a retiring democrat in michigan, a vulnerable democrat in kay hagan in north carolina. would he have, there are many plenty of opportunities for the republicans to get it. is it easy? no. is it possible? yes. one other piece since we're using the word palace intrigue tonight, one other race to watch is the man who would be the republican leader if they can get the net gain of six assuming mitch mcconnell can win his own race. >> he's being challenged by a tea party supporter in kentucky. >> very low numbers back home. he thinks he'll survive the primary challenge. he'll have a tough general election, as well. >> coming up, america's i

the senate foreign relations committee held their hearing for max baucus who has been nominated to behe next u.s. ambassador to china. they don't believe that the u.s. u.s. china policy. he is asking senator baucus to formulate a bat in his position as ambassador. joining us is austan goolsbee. -- i'mou disagree assuming you would, under the administration that there has not been a clearly defined u.s. foreign-policy regime. >> i would disagree. they should call him. they should get his input. we would will -- we don't have a one sentence china policy that would apply in every sphere. through the strategic and economic dialogue with china which is basically like the g2 meetings. china is changing quite a lot over this time a lot. >> the china academics at a vail or the university of chicago. what is the worry within the academic community. what is the front and center challenge that we face. >> on the economic sphere. they are moving into the rank of rich nations and they have to start acting like a rich nation and they have to be treated with the respect of the big economies and mana

host: how important to the tax writing max baucus chairman of the finance committee and dave camp fourth quarter district of michigan, how important are they? guest: they are the chairmen and they are extremely important. all tax legislation goes through them. host: what kind of individual power do they have? guest: i think it is not like the 1950's where the chairmen were all-powerful. i think the leadership has become much more powerful relative to the committees. i think that the members are not as deferential to the chairman as they once were. but they are still incredibly powerful because they have large staffs and control the agenda and prestige of their position. host: here are the two of them talking in july of this year and i want you to explain if you would what you are hearing. [video clip] >> everyone in the congress wants tax reform. it is different from healthcare which in the past is very political. that is political. this is not partisan. >> if you were a betting man would you say 50-50, 80-20? 25-75 something will get through? >> i rate it above 50%. >> above 50%, ok. wh

policies and instead what are we doing both the republicans and the democrats oh let's have fast track max baucus proposing this legislation this is crazy stuff. jimmy n r r adelphia arkansas age jimmy thanks for calling very how you do it to talk to you thank you for what it is i'm so called a doctor in little rock arkansas today to see about getting some treatment on my me well they told me if they do not accept medicare ok how can the doctors get away with bruce will not accept medicare i think that's discrimination against poor people or do you think about this i think it's it's sad to me thanks for the call i think it's very unfortunate there are doctors who don't take in any kind of insurance i mean there are doctors here in d.c. when we first moved to d.c. we were shopping for a doctor and it took a long long time to find any doctors who would see you within a year who took any insurance at all so you know we live in a system where doctors have the have the right to do that i think frankly as more and more people have health insurance and arkansas is going to be a tough one because your go

max baucus, waxman and a couple of others, but it goes to show you, this is not a career job. their time, but to stay in there 40 years is just, i think it's an embarrassment. >> and as recently as a month ago henry waxman was saying i'm in, and running for reelection n2012 he nearly lost that. california's 33rd congressman district, very left wing and almost lost last time. they're looking at the writing on the wall and looking at obama's poll numbers and poll numbers of obamacare, all of which are sliding fast. this is the 11th democrat to say he or she is not running for rehe election, they see the writing on the wall and they're out. stuart: they're dreaming, the day comes that henry waxman, they represents beverly hills, they elect a republican, or right of center. >> this is a changed election. stuart: how is this for obamacare headline, at least 43 convicted criminals are working as navigators in california and three of them have records of significant financial crimes. here is jillian, you dug into it and broke the story. >> thank you. stuart: i have to ask, how did yo

think tax reform went out window end of last year when the president announced he would nominate max baucusance committee, would be responsible for tax reform. he will be nominated to be ambassador of china. that basically kills tax reform for the rest of the year. immigration reform, i know business community would love it as you noted but it falls victim to internal republican politics. i think that is a really tough lift going into, into the election. let's back up for a second. when we say there is nothing going to happen, let me make two points. one, that is not a bad thing. i come from the view that, you know, congress, you know, should take hippocratic oath, do no harm. if they do nothing for the year, is that bad one, for the market and two the economy? my answer would be no. it is actually a positive. the second there is plenty going on in washington. don't just pay attention to congress. pay attention to regulatory agencies. between the implementation of obamacare, continued implementation of dodd-frank and financial regulation, what is going on with epa, there is a ton of stuff g

senator max baucus, the chairman of the finance committee, being nominated as u.s. ambassador to china -- with that happening, one of the biggest champions of tax reform, which is going to be this delicate process of trying to the lower -- trying to lower the rates while closing everyone pase brick loophole and credit everyone's favorite loophole and credit. basically, he'll be departing washington. it looks like the new chairman will be senator ron wyden. a champion as well of tax reform. dave camp basically has one year left as the chairman of the house ways and means committee. both those committees are the tax-writing committees. they have gone about trying to get tax reform moving. it hasn't quite happened yet. but it is something that is going to be really watched in 2014. host: number three on your list, top lobbying victories in 2013, groups who have lobbied for years to limit the filibuster in the senate, that victory, and when the summit democrats -- senate democrats went nuclear in november. number two on your list, business groups scored a lobbying break

max baucus, the outgoing senate finance committee chairman, has an idea for changing corporate taxes, what he did not even get a chance to float it, he is moving onto another job and is probably happy to get out of there. host: the front page story from "the new york times" references senator baucus leaving and the next finance committee chairman not having as much clout or authority as the past committee chairman seven had over the years. guest: that is probably true. it also takes time to accumulate that power. what happens is these committees generally start in around 1962, committee chairman have to get set with their members and they run that by bargaining a piece of legislation or another. they do favors for people on their committee and gradually begin to mold together majority where they can move forward. he has been mostly in the intelligence area, the massive metadata collection program. moving over to finance is a new arena. he has been on the committee, but that is not what he is known for. he will have to build his image. part of that is personal, part of that is institut

the house committee leader in the senate, max baucus, is going to be leaving to become ambassador toa. their hard work they have been doing behind-the-scenes up in the air. there has been some agreement, there are outsiders pushing for tax reform. it has not been able to take it over the finish line on the hill. host: talking with francine of the christian science monitor about democrats focusing in 2014. inequality francine kiefer, you note in your story the gallup poll that was taken in december of 2013. americans cite first, their satisfaction -- their dissatisfaction with government. second, economy, there can problems fors top the country. the gap between rich and poor is at the bottom. therein lies the balancing act for democrats. trying to steer public interest to an issue where the party holds an advantage. guest: it is an issue. it is not the most salient most in the public mind. what was so interesting about that gallup poll was that dissatisfaction with government displaced the economy as the number one issue. that is not surprising coming out of the shutdown and the role

the chairman of the finance committee, max baucus, is going to be leaving.has been nominated to be ambassador of china. dave camp, his counterpart in the house will be leaving the helm of ways and means. you'll probably have ron wyden of oregon, a democrat heading senate finance. and probably paul ryan, the co- author of the budget deal, at the helm of ways and means. and those two have a history of collaborating. we are looking for then to maybe rekindle that spirit, but probably not until after the election. host: will there be a, my son? guest: medicare. -- will there be a compromise with health care? guest: medicare. host: adriel bettelheim we are talking with adriel bettelheim -- we are talking with adriel bettelheim. maggie, you're up first in california, democratic caller. caller: good morning. i would like to comment on the fact that i believe a budget is . moral document and when i see that so many corporations are getting these tax breaks and they are calling things that i believe are earned likeits and entitlements they are some kind of -- i don't

news story has been the ongoing work on a bipartisan basis between chairman dave camp and senator max baucus, a democrat, and their staffs, working on ideas for a comprehensive tax form proposal. they have traveled around the country a bit together. partisan interest in doing something significant with the tax code. andfully what paul ryan senator murray did last month is a sign there is some effort on a bipartisan effort to do some good things. host: you are serving your six term in congress. you will not seek another term. guest: i was in the legislature for 12 years in congress in pennsylvania. it is a challenging lifestyle. my family is back home. i am down here quite a bit and not with them. i just think we are still in a gridlock situation that is probably not going to change a lot in the next few years. after about 12 years of this work, the gridlock situation i see still existing, i thought it was time to look for other opportunities out there. host: how has washington changed in your 12 years? guest: it was pretty partisan when i got there in january of 2003. i was in the pennsylvan

max baucus, the chairman of the finance committee, being nominated as u.s.ssador to happening,th that one of the biggest champions of tax reform, which is going to be this delicate process of trying to the lower -- trying to lower the rates while closing everyone pase brick loophole and credit loopholene's favorite and credit. it looks like the new chairman will be senator ron wyden. yearcamp basically has one left as the chairman of the house ways and means committee. both those committees are the tax-writing committees. they have gone about trying to get tax reform moving. it hasn't quite happened yet. but it is something that is going to be really watched in 2014. list,number three on your top lobbying victories in 2013, groups who have lobbied for years to limit the filibuster in the senate, that victory, and when the summit democrats -- senate democrats went nuclear in november. number two on your list, business groups scored a lobbying breakthrough under the affordable care act. guest: i will take number two first. like i was explaining, the first dent

it was written by chuck grassley staffers and max baucus staffers.untry can health care is we paid too much and got too little. since we are paying twice as much as the rest of the industrialized world for our health care, 20% of our dollars go to health insurance companies and in washington, d.c. she said give more money to insurance companies and not less. >> it's so maddening when progresses go oh, this had to be and this is -- you know, the greatest -- you know, the finest of progressive values in america. no. this is a piece of legislation that it started by them going to big -- and striking a big deal and went to the hospitals and struck a secret deal to the white house and they had to admit later on. then they had to strike a deal with the insurance companies and gave the insurance companies a monopo monopoly. >> a guaranteed profit of -- >> in the legislature. >> this is not a progressive piece of legislation. nothing progressive about this piece of legislation. they talk about guaranteeing coverage for 31 million people but did it by strikin

republicans seeking jobless aid deal on offsets and amendments down in the story, finance committee chair max baucus said that he doubted there would be an agreement before two scheduled cloture votes on the underlying clean three month $6.4 billion extends of broader jobless aid. so, again, we are awaiting remarks from senate leaders before they begin their session this answer for scheduled to start at 2:15 eastern. >> so again, we are live in the capitol awaiting remarks from senate leaders as they return from their weekly party caucus lunches. senate session expected to get underway at 2:15 eastern. over on our facebook page we have asked you how long is too long for unemployment benefits? we've gotten a number of responses, and you can also add your comments and join in the conversation. go to facebook.com/c-span. >> and the senate session has just gotten underway, and we'll take you live now to the u.s. senate as they debate undiplomat benefits. undiplomat benefits. i just want to chair briefly a few thoughts about where we are. we have before us an unemployment bill and the pending business is