joining sus max baucus the former u.s. ambassador as well to china mr.r, welcome. >> thank you >> what do you make of how this is unfolding >> well, i'm surprised, frankly. i expected vice president to do quite a bit better than he seems to be doing tonight. frankly, i think it's partly a mentality of the east coast. it's somewhat similar to the mentality in the hillary clinton campaign that is not really fully realizing the sufficiently sensitive to working class americans, she in the mid-west and other parts of the country and i have been surprised at this result. i think the vice president will still win, but he's going to chastise him >> i think one of the positions of the vice president that's been criticized is what his relationship would be with china, which you obviously know well as the former ba ed there what would it look like, relative to what it is now >> you mean with chosen? >> yeah. >> is that -- okay well, i've none joe for a long time i served with joe in the senate for 36 years and knew him when i was over in china representing the uni