host: huntington, new york, michael on with max pappas.aller: thank you so much and good morning, c-span. my question is, first of all, as far as your statement about competition state to state, i had a person on c-span one other time and she pointed out each state has their own regulatory system and that businesses out of state would not be able to flow under it. therefore, the idea that you could have competition state to state would not work. secondly, as far as socialist systems and the competition from a government run system the best system in the world it seems number one and we are somewhere around 36 in our quality of healthcare, is france which is entirely social ills. we pay twice as much as they do per person for healthcare. how can you justify this basically sale of the healthcare system to monopolies and say this is good for the american people? and please let me stay on and respond to your response. host: thanks. guest: the points about not being able to compete over state lines is peculiar to healthcare. i think all i have

host: huntington, new york, michael on with max pappas.aller: thank you so much and good morning, c-span. my question is, first of all, as far as your statement about competition state to state, i had a person on c-span one other time and she pointed out each state has their own regulatory system and that businesses out of state would not be able to flow under it. therefore, the idea that you could have competition state to state would not work. secondly, as far as socialist systems and the competition from a government run system the best system in the world it seems number one and we are somewhere around 36 in our quality of healthcare, is france which is entirely social ills. we pay twice as much as they do per person for healthcare. how can you justify this basically sale of the healthcare system to monopolies and say this is good for the american people? and please let me stay on and respond to your response. host: thanks. guest: the points about not being able to compete over state lines is peculiar to healthcare. i think all i have

now joining me now, is max pappas, the vice president for public policy of freedom works. freedom works is the health care industry, a group led by former congressman, dick armey, and is behind the destructions of all of these town hall meetings. max, good to have you. why is it that all of these guys named max are screwing up health care reform in this country? no offense. mr. pappas, are you purposely having people go out and tell lies in front of the cameras to try to derail raelt care reform in this country? >> no, absolutely not. we've been a grassroots organization for 25 years. and every recess we tell our members where the town halls are and we encourage them to go and participate. and we did that this recess, too. >> okay, so the people who came up to senator harkin today, that said that nancy pelosi and harry reid want to kill them, your organization doesn't have anything to do with encouraging these people to show up at these town hall meetings, correct? >> i don't know who those people are in particular. we have numbers in every single state. so it's hard to sa

max pappas, from freedom worms, and an analyst from the afl-cio. you're both professionals. tell me about this. the issues come up whether you're astroturf or not. are you a paid official? >> i work at the headquarters in d.c. >> you work -- and you get a salary from them. >> yes. >> are you a lobbyist? >> no. >> you're lobbying washington and pushing a point of view. how come you're not a lobbyist? >> we're 501-c3. >> you're nonpartisan. >> we're supposed to take this for real you're nonpartisan. you're spending all your time destroying a democratic health care plan? >> if you look at our opposition to a lot of bush's policies -- >> but right now you guys are killing -- you're going to every town meeting in the world blowing them apart. yep. >> how many people are on your payrolls? >> 18. >> how do you organize these meetings? when people do like the acorn meetings? >> mostly through the internet. we have about 400,000 online members who we can contact with an e-mail database we have, send them information about when the town halls are, give them briefings. on the health ca

in an hour, max pappas of freedomworks discusses that organization's efforts to rally protesters of president obama's health care initiatives at town hall events. ilyse hogue talks about moveon.org. in a couple of hours, dr. anthony fauci, the

max pappas talks of rallying workers at town hall of fans. an update on h1n1 swine flu with the had the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases. with headlines in your calls, "washington journal" is live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> topics at today's white house briefing in good health care negotiation, bill clinton's mission in north korea, and unemployment figures to be read these today release tomorrow. robert gibbs speak to reporters for about 45 minutes. >> can you tell us the current plans about getting president obama with bill clinton in north korea? >> we talked a little bit about this this morning. when the president spoke yesterday morning with president clinton, president obama expressed his desire to get together fairly soon. the two men would have a chance to talk. as we have described to you all , president clinton was a breach prior to his trip. -- was briefed prior to this trip. there will continue to be a debriefing process on the back end of that trip. there were communications between the former preside

max pappas discussing that organizations efforts protestors of president obama's health care initiatives at congratulations conferences. illyse hoge will be talking about about the conferences. >> sunday frank rich talks about future of the internet, the white water hearings and his column following 9/11. sunday on c-span. now christina romer, president of the white house council of economic numbers talks about the economic package. the economic club of washington host this is event. it's 50 minutes. >> can i have everybody's attention? could i have your attention for a moment? thank you. we're going to start right on time. >> i first want to acknowledge the presence of some special guests, the ambassador from india. ambassador shakar's here. [applause] >> and the vice chairman of the d.c. city council, councilman jack evans. and we have representatives from the embassies of poland, australia and russia r russia here as well. -- russia here as well. >> let me begin by introducing our special guest dr. romer. as many of you may no dr. rome is the chair of economic advisors. that position

. >> some democrats say max pappas network, freedom works doesn't want that at all.hey want them to participate not in a discussion of health care reform, but a shoutdown. >> you get some instances where people are so passionate, they get caught up in the i motion t. instead of a civil discussion, they start yelling or chanltich they get to this way. >> reporter: they list where town hall meetings will be held or operation embarrass your congressman celebrates making lawmakers look foolish. but you could argue those sites don't leave out republicans. there is one senator shouted down himself at a town hall meeting who says all of this doesn't matter. >> my preference would be to have it more sedate. listen, democracy is robust. it can be rough and tumble and nothing really surprises me anymore. >> i'm sure it doesn't. senator spector has been around for a long time. other lawmakers are adjusting. holding teleconferences instead of town hall meetings and talking one-on-one to constituents at places like senior citizen centers. they say they want an intelligent convers