back to charles payne, jonas max ferris and deirdre bolton.he story, the debt continues to grow and neither party seems to care. >> that's true, both parties have been spending like sailors and-- >> yeah, but what sailors do is their money. >> that's a legitimate point. this is pretty frightening. we're talking about some of the overhang costs which are big. i keep thinking of heck, our proprietary research during mid terms, that's the number one most important issue for voters. we know we're spending close to something like 18% of gdp on health care. it's not the best system in the world. it's inefficient and it's expensive so i think that's at least one place we can tackle it hopefully in 2020. i know there's a lot of different opinions on that. we talked about those costs, education costs up something like 130%, if you looked since the 1980's. so a lot of things that people care about cost a lot more money. neil: but debt isn't one of those issues. when you talk to the voters top ten issues it can be a variety of different polls and debt do