. >> rose: max roche? >> max roche, thelonious monk et al.. i needed to find work desperately and there was nothing in the theater for any of us. and it was lester young who sai the manager's nameas mty kay. said "ask monty for a gig." i said "doing what?" he said "sing." i said "i'mnot ainger." he said "i hear you at the school, man." so i said "well, i don't have any songs." he said "oh, really. " i said "i don't have any musicians." he said "i'll take care of that. we'll get you a piano players and get songs together and you'll be the intermission singer." which means i didn't need a vast repertoire, just enough to fill the stage that people were being seated and waiters were clashing glasses and stuff. and i put together a group of songs. but first it was called "pennies from heaven" and i thought it was a wonderful pathetic kind of here i was broke, busted and manna from heaven. so "pennies from heaven" is what i'll open with. and when i rehearsed these songs with al hague we rehearsed a routine because i was not deeply rooted as a musici