and you make it clear, sir john, in paragraph 5 that you did not, um, engage closely with the maxwell press, center-left titles and didn't seek a close relationship with any part of the media, and you describe that as quixotic. what do you mean precisely by that? i mean, we know what the term means, but what did you mean by that? >> yes. well, of course, a natural symmetry between the press and politicians. the politicians, all of them -- myself included -- would like to have a supportive press. the press have a quite different objective. they need stories. and they wish to sell their newspapers. so it was quixotic not for me to be close to the press. i wasn't able to seek to influence in the way perhaps others have earned editorial support in particular. i didn't want do that, a, because i thought i wouldn't do it very well. in fact, i'm sure i wouldn't have done it very well. but secondly, i did think it was rather undignified. i think there is a different role for the press and the government. the role for the government and politicians is, as best they can, run the country and det